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Suggestions for Shiva's Vision Festival

Virus-Spliff (Sheikah)
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 14:13
Hi everybody !!!
this post have as objective u all take part in this in more implicated level !!
would like to hear all the problems u usually see in festivals ,that could be arranged by some initiatives, i listen to all ur purposals and we willwork on as soon as i receive some suggestions, thank u very much, all this to get a killer conditions area for our festival. boooooom
Sheikah

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sherlockalien
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 15:38
as I posted on a topic below:

"as I suggested in the trancendecne thread, I think they should make the “bathroom cart“.. it“s like this:

the organizers hire a company that cleans the bathrooms daily (or twice a day).. then, they clean, say, half of the bathrooms daily.. for the ones that are cleaned, you have to pay a small amount, like 1 real every time you go to the bathroom... and the other ones you dont have to pay...

so you have a choice... you can use very clean bathrooms for a cheap price, and normal bathrooms for free... in this way, with the money we pay for the clean bathrooms, the organizers use to hire the people that clean it, so they dont have extra costs...

and it doesnt change much for people who dont want to pay, because there are other free bathrooms

I think its the best solution.. what do you guys think?"



another thing: take care of the chill out.... Getting some covered area, with some carpets, pillows or something like that... VERY IMPORTANT! it sucks when the chill out is simply on the floor, nothing more.. =)


and for the line up, I suggest maybe getting some brazillian progressive djs, since progressive is also somehow forgotten in parties nowadays, and if they are in Brazil already, they will be cheaper (consider artists from Tropical Beats label)
NeutroN
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 20:22
sherlockalien, Im sorry mate but Im totally against this idea of having to pay everytime you want to use the toilets, the use of clean toilets should all be included in the price of the ticket, since when you pay for the ticket you pay for the whole lot, sort of a holiday package. The orgainzer should provide clean toilets to everyone and not just for the ones who pay for it, you've probably seen this in some country in europe, I've also been to a party in belgium where the only toilet in the place we had to pay everytime we went in, and if ideas like urs start poping up that is what is gonna happen everytime we need to go to the toilet and I can assure you that it is an absolute hell when you wanna go to the toilet and u are low in cash or even maybe you dont have change.

now back to topic, Sheikah, I will not be attending this festival due to lack of £$ for travel, but it would be a cool idea if not only trance artists were booked, you can perhaps show, different types of psychedelic music in a different tent, maybe an 'alternative tent' it doesnt have to be eletronic music it can be proper bands unkown bands, not only it would be another cool place to chill and sort of get out of the tum tum tum for a minute, but not completely chill out yet.           "Great things are only possible with outrageous requests." Thea Alexander
sherlockalien
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 20:53
I did not say ALL bathrooms should be payed for.. I take voov, for example.. you had a lot of bathrooms, some were payed, some were not.. if you dont want to pay, just use the other bathrooms.. if you want a very clean bathroom with toilet paper and a sink outside, all neat, you pay just a little...
its not supposed to be like this place you went in belgium where there is ONLY the payed bathroom.. thats greediness and stupidity from the organizers

of course, man, I would preffer if it was all cleaned twice a day without having to pay... but if it“s not going to happen, then at least do what Im saying, understand ?
Wanka Tanka


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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 21:48
I agree with you sherlockalien but not 100% mate, your idea is very good well thoughted but I think that the clean bathroons are an obligation of the organizers since we pay a lot of money for the tickets and all necessary "infra" MUST be included.

Changing to the aspect of sound and arts now:
@NeutroN totally agree with you, its very very cool the idea of a diferent tent where new kinds of sounds and arts can be explored. In this world we live there are many kinds of projects ( psychedelic projects ) that doesnt belong to the tum tum tum area and still are very intresting and inovative the place that I imagine would be a fusion of a super chillout area and a more artistic vision where we can displayed video arts, grafic arts, new musical projects (bands included) and even some plastic artists exposions why not ?

my whishes for the line up dancefloor and chillout
dancefloor :
I would love to be in a festival that guys like Vision & Canedy, Symphonix, Buzzmonx, Saiko Pod were confirmed to play !!..to name a few.. I would just die for that kind of line up on the progressive area cause I'm a big fan of that style and i can see that this musical taste is growing in Brazil (Thanks God)
chillout :
theres a great band of psychedelic dub that comes from the land of Mr.Bush the guys are know as Sub Oslo and their sound are from other space a blend of very good psy-dub with space rock very intresting
I would considering start thinking it was a dream to be inna chillout where I can listem to lives of shakatura, bluetech, OTT, Androcell, Loganoid,Lavrenchukki > all this guys are very good in their own style and for sure can make a chillout area to be remembered forever and ever

thats my dream opinion
thanks
Virus-Spliff (Sheikah)
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Posted : Dec 24, 2004 15:33
Cool guys ,thanks for giving some idea , i'll care personaly on the bathroom point , and it's a great idea tu fusion with my initial one for visual , art gallery,spyco videos ,and a crazy area, would like to know wich kind of projects u're speaking about Wanka TANKA for alertnative tent , maybe could be an amazing idea for the festival , will post on website soon as soon as we get it , all psychedleic projects who wanna show their projects on the festival will be welcomed to show their musics , on alternative stage for free entrance and start having a first oportunity.
Please would like to know wich kind of other usual problems u see on brasilain festivals like problems with infrastructure, sound, bars,etc........ waiting for hearing ur opinions for trying to arrange all these problems usually found, will promise to work on those points all the serious possible , thanks and booooom,happy very christmas.
Sheikah

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sherlockalien
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Posted : Dec 24, 2004 16:09
ok.. now this other idea, used on voov and some other festivals:

To help with the trash problem... What they did was the following.. when you entered the festival, you gave 5 euro extra for “trash deposit“... When you gave this money, they gave you a big plastic bag, and a little special coin (or could be whatever that people dont cheat, a little special bracelet, some ticket, whatever)...
anyway, if you brought the bag full of trash (half full at least), and the little coin back, you would get your money back..

this way, people wouldnt actually pay anything, but this “deposit“ thing was a good incentive for people to care about their trash (you should see the amount of trash that people gathered)
sherlockalien
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Posted : Dec 24, 2004 16:11
and appart from that, spread a lot of trash cans around too, on the dancefloor, chill outs, etc... I have witnessed some festivals where there are no trashcans, and people even want to throw it properly, but they dont find where.. so they just put it down on the ground somewhere

maybe to take care of the aluminium cans, getting a few locals that want to sell cans to recycling companies to get money also helps sometimes =)

(anyway, just a few ideas for taking care of the trash, that is a common problem..)
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