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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jul 25, 2012 17:39:36
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I just had an idea.
USA promoters looking to bring artists from overseas should do the following:
1.) Set up a Paypal account for people to donate to help pay for artists to come to the USA.
2.) People who donate ([x] minimum amount equal to less than the projected presale price) receive a ticket to the upcoming event.
3.) When funds are accumulated, the ticket for the artist is purchased, ensuring advance airfare prices.
4.) The event date then gets set, and planning begins. Presale prices would equal an amount slightly higher than the original donation amount.
This would in the long run cut down on costs for airfare and ensure the headliner's booking requirements are fulfilled well in advance.
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Ascension
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Posted : Jul 25, 2012 18:26
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That would work great if you have a 100% for sure venue with a range of dates available that work within the artist time frame.
Unless this is for an artist no one else wants to book, I think it'd still be easier/cheaper to do a flight share. We've thought about doing this for smaller family style events (like at someone's land we know- yes we've talked about how many ppl would have to donate how much to get Simon).
Curious about why you posted this? Flight costs are usually the last worry (since you either book them or you don't), I'd say this would be advantageous for internationals to receive a partial booking fee upfront if they're worried about getting paid or need money for travel expenses.
On another note, a lot of attendees don't even know (or care) who the headliner is unless it's someone they've seen before. Most people come to parties for a variety of reasons, so they might be reluctant to donate just to see an artists at an undecided time and location that they might not even be able to attend. http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Osb
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Posted : Jul 26, 2012 03:41
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How much could be the total expenses of booking a well known artist for a club event ?
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Upavas
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Posted : Jul 30, 2012 04:07
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@Oski: depends on the artist and where he has to fly from.
@Jason: Great idea, let me throw one on top, additionally to your idea North American trance party promoters could stick together and book an artist in several locations, e.g. New York, Carolina, LA/San Francisco... the combined promoters would pay significantly less for airfare and would make the booking fees come down, meaning you as artist have a choice between one well paid gig that may not happen because one promoter can't afford it, or three not so highly paid gigs where the artist could make more $ altogether simply because the three gigs in combination bring in more money and exposure for the artist...
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Ascension
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Posted : Jul 30, 2012 18:55
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Communism is also good... in theory 
Flight shares are great, but it can be hard to find ppl that want the same artist as you and more often the case is that there isn't another party close enough to the event.
A lot of people skipped/weren't able to flight share Terrafractyl last year and Ajja the previous year- so it can be tough even with marketable names that a number of people seem to enjoy.
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Upavas
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Posted : Aug 3, 2012 07:37
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Ascension
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Posted : Aug 3, 2012 10:51
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It's being realistic . It's mostly due to the case that things like other promoters having a secured event lined up during a time that works for the artist don't occur. Or simply other promoters aren't interested in booking the same act/can't afford it, etc.
Everyone starts planning parties at different times too, I've gotten numerous messages about flight sharing artists well after our budget has been set.
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Upavas
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Posted : Aug 3, 2012 13:39
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Yeah, I think that's because there is no proper network where all promoters can collaborate. Otherwise you could have connected with people who have the same interest before your budget was set... and possibly collaborated.
As to communism, no, it's not good, neither is capitalism, look at the world today... how about a mix of both? Has it been done before?
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Ascension
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Posted : Aug 3, 2012 20:01
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The network is called facebook (for good or for bad). A means to communicate doesn't guarantee proper communication either .
The more I think about it, the more I realize that this is a case of promoters doing their lineups/budgets at different times. This isn't something that's easy to coordinate with other people because a lot of factors go into when it actually makes sense to start planning a party/festival.
I've been trying to create more communication between promoters who throw reoccurring festivals in the summer around the time we do Sacred Earth (first weekend in june). Funny that this topic is here- this past weekend I talked with Jessica and Brian from Atrium Obscurum about just this- planning flight shares as soon as they start planning their party.
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MR VOMERS
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Posted : Aug 18, 2012 08:15
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communication needs to be proper for this all to happen, and to have everybody in the same boat and on the same TIME FRAME. if all of those things i just mentioned aren't timed right, and done proper...fail. I see it a lot. It's a great idea, if we can get enough people to actually work together!
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mubali
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Posted : Aug 23, 2012 18:08
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Also from my experiences in Europe, there were no flight shares done for me to go there. Either 1 org would pay my round trip flight to Europe and I'd charge them little to nothing for a fee, or I would pay for my own flight. So it's doesn't really happen like that in Europe for many of the same reasons why it doesn't happen here.
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ocelot
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Posted : Oct 19, 2012 23:32
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but there are more events in Europe and bigger events and in each country (it would be the equivalent to each state or group of states here having events with 200+ people)
and yeah, being based there usually guaranteed some interest from at least SOME countries around... provided they knew i was there...
I don't really see the point of the paypal thing.
The scene is some amorphous entity...
each organizer or family has their own public they have cultivated over time, and there is often a sense of rivalry or being defined in terms of how they are different than xyz other group...
i think that generally, grand-central-trance-dispatch aka "spirit" could do a fuck-of-a-lot better and organizing life in general.
there is so much waste and pointless waste in this world!
but this is general, and not simple something from the trance scene...
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