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Studio One revived

moki
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Posted : May 8, 2016 23:33:20
Is there someone here who has been observing and reading the forum on a regular basis for the last few years, someone who can link to any studio one discussions or single posts about studio one?

It looks as if studio one is not so vastly represented among music producers. At least there are only few tutorials about studio one in connection to psy trance. This is confusing since the creator of studio one actually is someone who came from the scene - this is what I have always been told about it. How come producers prefer not to use it - after all there are some perfect workflow structures in studio one which you will miss on fruity, ableton, cubase etc...Yesterday for example, a friend came to a visit and we tried out some basic workflow in fruity which is his choise of software. And I realized that studio one is extremely optimized for fast action and switching between new channels, midi piano rolls, effects, arrangement...Or is it just the factor of habits? No I guess it is a really good piece of software, clean, fast, intuitiv...

Anyway, I would so much love to see a tutorial about studio one and psytrance, may be something in Tom Cosm style, or simply something decent with a systematic concept beginning from scratch? Or just something about weird effects and key dynamics?

If you never tried studio one out - actually why not? What is it that it cannot do?
Blubberbert


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Posted : May 9, 2016 10:01
I actually tried it because it was recommended to me by a fellow producer. I think it is a great piece of software. But as with all DAWs I try - I always return to ableton live. Simply because I am so much faster and there is no need for me to learn another DAW. So yeah its the habits. If you don´t have to think about how to do this and that anymore you can - simply make music ....
moki
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Posted : May 9, 2016 22:33
Once you arrive in this "master" level when you do not have to think about the software and simply make music, it is probably the factor of habit what keeps you away from learning new DAWs. But what do you do then, in case you want to make music with others who do not use Ableton? Wouldn't you look into the raw files that someone made, in order to come to an idea about what input his track needs, about how you could integrate a sound or two into his story? Wouldn't it then be an advantage to actually know and have good habits with possibly many other DAWs? Or is this lost time at the end of the day?

To me, as I am not in the "master" level, a piece of music software is always connected to an intensive intellectual struggle because I am sure there is hundred times more features and hidden workflow click paths to be discovered, than those that I've discovered already. So I think very intense about what the software could do and what it cannot. And exactly because I am so much engaged with "thinking", I like to use software that feels natural about the basic workflow so it does not need further brain capacity to create basic patterns. In the case of studio one: I simply drag a synth of my choise and with this one drag a channel has been automatically created, the midi roll is there to be filled witha click, it only needs one click on the track of the instrument and an empty pattern is automatically created and routed to a channel , a pattern which can be duplicated and immediately modified in midi notation, an arrangement is there within seconds. A drag of an effect to the channel, in and out, I seriously doubt that there could exist a more simple and faster way for the basic workflow.

But back to the goal of the topic: it is not my intention to persuade anyone that studio one is the most natural interface, but to find out where it is significantly better than other software, except, (if at all) the user experience and the shorter workflows. Does anyone know any decent trance names who definitely used studio one abd who are they?
BigZ
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Posted : May 11, 2016 03:28
Sensifeel is using studio one. Was easier to me, ableton user, than cubase on the first day.            me Progressive Project : http://www.soundcloud.com/out-of-jetlag
PsyTrance Project : http://www.soundcloud.com/inner-shade
Blubberbert


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Posted : May 13, 2016 12:56
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But what do you do then, in case you want to make music with others who do not use Ableton? Wouldn't you look into the raw files that someone made, in order to come to an idea about what input his track needs, about how you could integrate a sound or two into his story? Wouldn't it then be an advantage to actually know and have good habits with possibly many other DAWs? Or is this lost time at the end of the day?



The advantage of collabing in the actual project is that you can tweak everything from the synthpatches to fx aso. Downsides is that this can block you from moving foreward and obviously you need the same software (and if you have, this at times can be unstable). So often everything will be bounced to audio and audiotracks will be exchanged or the project in the same daw will work with audio tracks.

In my experience you´ll find your way around the most important functions with any major daw quite fast if you know your own daw.Especially the more advanced techniques are rarely needed in producing psy imo. Also it´s fun to get to know a new daw.

The most confusing thing is the different shortcuts. It is very hard to be not hitting the wrong keys in another daw all the time once you are depending heavily on shortcuts for your workflow in your daw of choice - and it is very hard to shift to another set of shortcuts for just a session or two. Also slight workflow differences will slow you down alot.

I´d be really interested if someone who moved to studio one from another daw to hear for what features she/he did that. or to quote moki

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But back to the goal of the topic: it is not my intention to persuade anyone that studio one is the most natural interface, but to find out where it is significantly better than other software, except, (if at all) the user experience and the shorter workflows.







moki
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Posted : May 13, 2016 21:00
Here are some studio one users, who switched from other daws, for example from cubase:
http://studioone.presonus.com/users

Btw, just on a side note: while looking for the quote I wanted to post from the website of presonus about a producer who switched form cubase, I found out that the presonus website seriously needs a modified information architecture. Seriously, studio one is much more exciting than it looks on the first sight checking the website...Armed with various synths and vsts, plugins and effects, it is a powerful weapon, because its interface is extremely clean. On the contrary the website not always has fast paths and workflows to get what you look for...


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Especially the more advanced techniques are rarely needed in producing psy imo. .



This is an interesting statement. Can you please give some examples of such techniques?








moki
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Posted : May 13, 2016 21:50
Just found something really weird on the presonus website:
Presonus Notion for composing and performing scores, importing und edit them to Studio One. And it is the "only notation software that works with a standalone iPad® app".








Impressive!
http://www.presonus.com/products/Notion-5/features




Another interesting thing to be found on the webiste is PreSonus Channel Strip Collection which offers a nice overview for the dynamic handling that we talked about in another issue recently:



http://www.presonus.com/press/press_releases/Channel-Strip-Collection-and-Studio-Grand-Piano

I am completely overwhelmed every time I find some new Studio One products...The elegance of the logic. Let's check more about Presonus Notion. I have never seen something like this before!






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