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strange problem with a nord 2

Vibe Tribe
Vibe Tribe

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Posted : May 4, 2005 15:07
hi 2 all !

last night i found a strange problem with my nord....

one of the keys just stoped working, the most "middle" key.... a#..

he doesnt work as a midi also , i mean if u use the nord as a midi kayboard..

what should i do?

some one know's some place in israel that can fix that kind of problems?

the nord is in most new condition that can be, but he is out of warranty..



tnx in advance.
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Ronaron303

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Posted : May 4, 2005 15:41
Hi Stas ,


its very known problem when A# its out ,the next will be or A or H ,usualy hapens to performers .

As i know to fix the problem will cost half of the price of the whole Nord (to fix Ts 10 by Ensonic and Korg triton Le costs half of the price of their costs ,as i shurely know).

So, you can use some midi keyboard conecting to the nord ,if you have one,its will be the cheapest way .

Good luck !

Trip-
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Posted : May 4, 2005 16:02
A or H? what about T and O and Z ?

stas - go to music-shop or marom - there's a lab in bney brak that does this fix.           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
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Vibe Tribe
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Posted : May 4, 2005 21:45
ok tnx amigos..           www.myspace.com/vibetribestudio
Ronaron303

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Posted : May 5, 2005 01:38
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On 2005-05-04 16:02, Trip- wrote:
A or H? what about T and O and Z ?

stas - go to music-shop or marom - there's a lab in bney brak that does this fix.




T and O and Z ,does not exists on the keyboard.Maybe they are exists some where in your bedroom studio but not on my Nord.

By the way Trippy ,you know why its hapened to A#?
Cause very useful roots in psy and other genres is Cm ,Fm ,Gm ,when you write an acompaniment or melody ,you will use some pentatonik scale ,wich everybody use (in psy ,pentatonik scale is popular)and A# is the note by one of the those pentatonik roots roots (Cm,Fm,Gm),in short words its got use every time .and cant survaive.

i have ts10 and Le with the same probleme and next note will be the closest to A# .Cause it that what hepened next to Le and Ts10.

And if you trying to save some chekels ,you will probably connect some of the midi keyboards that you already have to broken device.

Cheers
RonAron303
Vibe Tribe
Vibe Tribe

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Posted : May 5, 2005 02:30
whhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttt????????????????????????????????????????????

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JaLi


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Posted : May 5, 2005 02:32
@Ronaron
Yeah..ok,just for your information A,B,C,D,E,F,G.And thats it..No H note
According to u then..A,D,E and G would have equaly the same possibility to brake cause these are used as frequently as A# if not more......Come on man u cannot predict which is next....+Nord wouldhave known better..

ps.I ve been a keyboard player for ages..and my synths are in a good condition only because i respected them..

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Ronaron303

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Posted : May 5, 2005 03:01
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On 2005-05-05 02:32, JaLi wrote:
@Ronaron
Yeah..ok,just for your information A,B,C,D,E,F,G.And thats it..No H note
According to u then..A,D,E and G would have equaly the same possibility to brake cause these are used as frequently as A# if not more......Come on man u cannot predict which is next....+Nord wouldhave known better..

ps.I ve been a keyboard player for ages..and my synths are in a good condition only because i respected them..



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(ill make it a bit spicy) Well, as i know ,the H is a minor root that contain 2#(F and C) ,so theoreticaly H could be B ,No, is the same.you call it H just because there is no Bminor there is a Hminor ,and its the fact .So B its also H.

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You got the answer?
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i am trying to predict from expirience with other 2 keyboards with the same problem ,so ,the next after A# was H(H or B ,let me call it like that until the thread will end),its got some connection there ,its like the bridge(example with the teeth bridge) ,so in final igoted out of control A#,H or B as you wish,A and G# .I hope it not going to hapen to you but it more possible that it will be next standing note to the broken one than any others.

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Well you can respect the synths ,but the quality speaks other ,you will never know when it hapens
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Cheers
JaLi


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Posted : May 5, 2005 04:30
oohh..spicy I liiike....! lol
Man there IS a B minor...I have never seen a score with an H..Anyway.. (Call it as u will now that I understand what u mean!)
The bridge thing sounds logical..!Though..My brother had keys not working on more than one keyboards.But the keys where completely randomly fucked(and a# was not one of them).No key near the broken one had a problem for a loong time until now..
It should be a matter of brand as well.
I hope it never happens to me..I try to prevent it
Good luck stas man!
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Ronaron303

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Posted : May 5, 2005 04:57
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On 2005-05-05 04:30, JaLi wrote:
oohh..spicy I liiike....! lol
Man there IS a B minor...I have never seen a score with an H..Anyway.. (Call it as u will now that I understand what u mean!)






ghgh ,JaLi,there is no B minor ,there is H minor , i holding here 230 pages of simple theory and its says there is no B minor,there is H minor .

By the way ,why H minor and not B minor ,cause B minor is Bb minor and not B as a note,and in this situation you will call B (as a root wich is going to be minor) H (wich is H minor) ,at the end there are B minor and H minor ,but the diference between them is that th B minor is have 5bemol and H minor have 2# ,
So,JaLi you are not right B minor is totaly Bbminor and H minor its how you should call it.

If you would have theoretical test and put B minor on B wich is you want to be as aroot minor ,you will be mistaken your B wich you want to be minor root ,will be H minor .

Thats what i call a SPICE!

Cheers
JaLi


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Posted : May 5, 2005 05:42
Ok now I see the problem.In greece where i was taught we call the notes like do re mi fa sol la si. No a,b,c, etc.There isnt an other name for ''h'' in that systemIt would be like creating another extra note name which would never happen with the particular note system I reckon..

But its pointless to call a note with a different name where u dont really need to..Like when u want to reffer to the note alone rather than the scale,it is for sure better to call it B. Isn it?

Are we going off topic or is it me?
Going to bed now..Long day tmrw..
10 o clock lesson...
Ta very much.night night           Reasons to be cheerful are 3..!
Ronaron303

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Posted : May 5, 2005 06:05
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On 2005-05-05 05:42, JaLi wrote:
Ok now I see the problem.In greece where i was taught we call the notes like do re mi fa sol la si. No a,b,c, etc.There isnt an other name for ''h'' in that systemIt would be like creating another extra note name which would never happen with the particular note system I reckon..

But its pointless to call a note with a different name where u dont really need to..Like when u want to reffer to the note alone rather than the scale,it is for sure better to call it B. Isn it?

Are we going off topic or is it me?
Going to bed now..Long day tmrw..
10 o clock lesson...
Ta very much.night night




Well ,its like Double# ,lets say, D double #,it will be E ,so the same hapens to "H" .

"H" is enharmonic with "B", thats it,just enharmonic.

Anyway ,i call them: Do ,Re ,Mi ,Fa ,Sol,La and Si.

Cheers.

Elad
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Posted : May 5, 2005 09:25
no one brake his cutoff yet?
i think musicshop can fix your problem anywayz.. but that realy like half the price of nord
or if u can find technition that can do it its probably less then 10% music shop price..
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NikC
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Posted : May 5, 2005 17:55
Whoa...
About the H key, it depends on what country you are from how it is tought.

B is the Same as H in Germany, and scandinavia, and in other parts of Europe but not in America or England.

The reason is that the "flat" is referred to as "b" so "B Flat" becomes "Hb"

Simple as that (I know.. was educated in music theory in both Sweden and England)

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