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Stop putting so much time and work into basslines!
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Mike A
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Posted : Mar 20, 2004 01:22
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In order to make a good bassline you also need general knowledge about sound and music - which is also gained through making things other than basslines.
Just make full tracks, a perfect bassline with a sucky track on top isn't much.
Work, make music - put less work into the bassline and more work into the music itself.
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AlienAbduction*
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Posted : Mar 20, 2004 01:30
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absolutely right!
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Reconstructed
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Posted : Mar 20, 2004 03:33
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This is so damn true...
...but when out of the ashes of trance an all-bassline genre emerges us lazy tards who just make percussion and basslines all day are going to be kings! |
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motorik
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Posted : Mar 20, 2004 09:43
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I think that as far as it goes for trance, good bl sound and good kick sound can make a track rise or fall , of course the all music around (fx ,pads , arrpeg' ,etc) is very important too but bassline and kick is like the
basis for all the trance structure.
let me compare it to D&B or Jungle , you cannot make this music with a lousy drums
sounds and structure because drums are the basis for this kind of music.....
anyway i'll say it again after you have your foundation for the tracks (bl,kick) you need to show the musical side of you.
I would look at it like two sections that are depend of each other , there is no good track without a good powerful kick,bl section which give the power to the track ,and there is also no good track without the higher (pad,fx lead ,etc..)section which give the "story" to the track.
The importance to the track IMO is equal 50% to each secion , one couldn't live without the other and create a good track.
salute 
Motorik
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jon
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Posted : Mar 20, 2004 09:47
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On 2004-03-20 01:22, Mike A wrote:
In order to make a good bassline you also need general knowledge about sound and music
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hehe in fact I would go further : stop making trance! Well, maybe not 'stop', but writing other kinds of music for a change I think gives you a much better perspective when you go back to trance. Oh and by 'different' I dont mean 'psychedelic breaks exactly the same as trance but with a different kick pattern' hehe
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billy ambulance
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Posted : Mar 20, 2004 12:40
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On 2004-03-20 01:22, Mike A wrote:
In order to make a good bassline you also need general knowledge about sound and music
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hehe in fact I would go further : stop making trance! Well, maybe not 'stop', but writing other kinds of music for a change I think gives you a much better perspective when you go back to trance. Oh and by 'different' I dont mean 'psychedelic breaks exactly the same as trance but with a different kick pattern' hehe
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I say: stop making music at all!
eating cornflakes, watching t.v and such will give you so much to your music later on..
check out! www.soundclick.com/spasm |
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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Mar 20, 2004 14:42
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keep putting ALOT of time into the bassline, and do the same to the rest...
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Te_nTe
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Posted : Mar 20, 2004 15:09
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dont listen to what said on forum.
thats the best way to gain experience and knowledge. |
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Mike A
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Posted : Mar 20, 2004 15:57
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I didn't say don't work on basslines, just saying that if you can't do a bassline try to do other things instead..
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djsid
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Posted : Mar 21, 2004 22:03
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ND
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Posted : Mar 21, 2004 22:20
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hmmm... funny topic actually
i think i'm starting the track with kick and bass combo for most of the time...
and if they know to make other parts and suck ass bassline, how that finished tune will sound hehe
try, learn and explore!
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Trip-
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Posted : Mar 21, 2004 22:59
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thank god I never start a track with bassline and kick - I feel the minority.... 
Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
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Woggle
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Posted : Mar 21, 2004 23:03
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how do you spend time on basslines? they get shat out like nothing? they're so god damn easy to make! heh load up an sh101 or juno and play part of the scale of the whole track, then do some transpositions and u ahve a dope bassline. How do people sepnd time on basslines if everyone's basslines nowadays soudn the same? is it cuz softsynths can't shit out basslines like analog can?
btw your melodies shoudl be yoru basslines some of the time seperating melody from bassline is VERY bad!=P which is why tracks made that way sound very *static* |
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