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Stereo Field tips?
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Chemogen
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Posted : May 6, 2008 15:13:21
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My panning is usually as such:
Kick, Snare and bass centered.
Percussion at around 30
Pads and one shots at 50
and leads 50 to hard panning.
What I'm wondering is if it's a good idea to pan leads hard, or should they be closer to the center?
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"42"
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Posted : May 7, 2008 03:35
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Can you give more info?
That is my interest too...
When you say centered - you mean stereo on 0? or mono?
And when you say Percussion at around 30 you mean 2 channels of L & R which in each one it is 30?
What about combining L, R, & M for kick? all together?
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Chemogen
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Posted : May 7, 2008 15:13
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Kick/Bass on 0 in stereo and - for example - open hat at L30 and closed hat at R30. |
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piko_bianko
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Posted : May 7, 2008 15:33
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athough i love maths, music and maths in music,
i think this is a matter of perception and not maths.
(or even better, it's a matter of precise maths):-)
you say L30 or R50... in which panning law ? -3db ? -6db ?
additionally, having a sound at 0 -as you say- is not center, as the recorded sample may be a stereo one (with diffirent signal on both channels) 
be sure to load kicks on mono channels, or place an imager with stereo width placed at 0
same with basses extreme |
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Tomos
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Posted : May 7, 2008 18:07
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I read the title as 'Stereo Field Trips'
Great! When are we all going?
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piko_bianko
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Posted : May 7, 2008 18:47
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On 2008-05-07 18:07, Tomos wrote:
I read the title as 'Stereo Field Trips'
Great! When are we all going?
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ahhahahahahahhahahah 
extreme |
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Mesq
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Posted : May 8, 2008 14:18
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Fuck all this number shit.
Hehe
Kick and Bass in Centre for sure.
Open Hats in Centre.
Everything else you must think of like a spectral 3d puzzle. If you need to keep it static fine...
However think about what is happening on a spectral level... not only space but timbre.
However I always like to have many dynamic sounds always with automation...
But yeah... don't think about numbers think about how you will put together your 3d sound puzzle. |
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Djones
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Posted : May 8, 2008 15:45
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Could anyone explain me, what's really the difference if the sound is panned hard left/right, compared to just leaving it in the middle!?
I don't really understand what is happening, as I would assume there isn't a difference at all, as long as we're not using a 'center' speaker, correct!?
Because no matter what you do, the signal still flows over the left and right speaker. |
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : May 8, 2008 19:26
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On 2008-05-08 15:45, Djones wrote:
Could anyone explain me, what's really the difference if the sound is panned hard left/right, compared to just leaving it in the middle!?
Because no matter what you do, the signal still flows over the left and right speaker.
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Uh, if you pan a sound hard left or right then you should hear it *only* in the left or right speaker. If you're hearing hard panned sounds out of both speakers than something is wrong with your speaker setup.
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Upavas
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Posted : May 8, 2008 19:27
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yes, your stereo field has 180 degrees. in these 180 degrees as your ear perceives it you can pack all kinds of sound. In a stereo mix you only have 2 speakers (and maybe a sub). Leads for instance can be panned all over the place if you feel like it. percussion I usually pan as well, this is great if you have 2 percussion tracks, you can pan them left and right (not too hard) so they become more audible and you don't have two frequencies coming out of the same speaker , thus cancelling each other and masking each other. There is no real rule, except bass and kick both need to be center. basically try to fill out your 180 degrees as much as you can , meaning use all your 180 degrees man...
Today I am going to the studio to 5.1 mix an ambient track, and there it gets even much more interesting as far as panning is concerned... I can't wait...
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-dudi-
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Posted : May 8, 2008 19:34
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This is a topic tht interests me a lot too
i find the stereo field to be some what of a canvas to paint your sounds in ,,, and clever use of the panning options can giv the mix a great feel depending on how you use it...especially for intricate tracks ,, where u wanna fit in as many layers as possible...
clever panning can solve masking and some phase issues as well i think
obviously there r some basic rules in dance music , like having the kick and bass right in the centre keeping them in mono ...
sometimes i take a lead ,, duplicate it thrice ,,, pan one channel to hard left one to hard right and one in mono ,, to make the lead seem more prominent in a mix ,,,
lots of scope for experimenting here ... be creative and see what sounds right to u
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Upavas
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Posted : May 8, 2008 22:31
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Surrender
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Posted : May 9, 2008 00:28
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if your kick and bass signals are mono it doesnt matter if you place them in a mono or stereo channel.
the fact that cubase allows you to place mono signals in stereo channels is made for ease of use and is not actually have any effect on the signal.
mono is still mono. the visual representation of the apparent of the stereo channel means nothing.
"On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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