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Stereo Enhancer for mastering?
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Upavas
Upavas
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Posted : Jan 5, 2009 09:12:09
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I have started experimenting with the new Aire stereo enhancer in PT8, and found it quite interesting when used for mastering. It seems a little goes a long way...
and the effect can also easily be overused.
Can you please share experiences/recommendations for mastering tracks with such an effect?
Looking forward to your answers...
I did ask this in the mastering mother a few days ago, no one seemed to see, so I try here...
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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Jan 5, 2009 11:01
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I can see a point for using stereo enhancer plug ins on other people's tunes that haven't done much work with their stereo field, but when doing my own stuff, I don't apply stereo enhancer plug ins on the final mix.
Mixing big stereo sounds with mono ones, helps with separating leads that are somewhat conflicting in frequencies, so I just take care of doing all the work in the arrangement/mix down.
Basically I try to avoid any stereo enhancing plug ins (although Logic 8 has some great ones) and just sort out the patch with panning oscillators is a synth patch or double up synth parts, slightly detuned/off time and pan them.
That does the trick as far as I am concerned.
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle
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Posted : Jan 5, 2009 19:47
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Sonica
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Posted : Jan 5, 2009 22:03
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yeh i find stero enhancers make it sound very tinny, ive learned pan techniques or as mentioned pan LFO and doublers work for me |
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Sonica
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Posted : Jan 5, 2009 22:04
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in the mixdown that iz, final mixdown should already be 'bright' where stero iz concernd |
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Greententacle
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Posted : Jan 5, 2009 23:03
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A good mix doesn´t need an stereo enhancer! |
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Medea
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Posted : Jan 5, 2009 23:42
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i use steinberg stereoexpander for mastering. Sometimes very little, but almost in every track. It just works! =)
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Upavas
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Posted : Jan 6, 2009 05:23
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Aeon
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Posted : Jan 6, 2009 08:18
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a little goes a very long way! like with other M/S processing, i tend to try and find the point where i can hear the effect working, then knock it back a few notches, then listen to the mix again.
i have used the Ozone widener in the past, because it's got really useful features (adjustable crossover freqs, delays, phase meter).
recently however i bought one of these for 10 euros on ebay:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1994_articles/sep94/behringeredison.html
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Medea
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Posted : Jan 6, 2009 16:32
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Upavas, i use it right before limiter, usually 75% to the right side is enough or more than enough, depends on the mix. I don't care of widening only mid and high frequencies, because in my mixes low freqs are usually mono, so widening won't apply to them.
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ecsmix
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Posted : Jan 6, 2009 16:43
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It's a good tool but don't use it on low frequencies put a filter after the plug in, sometimes the stereo tool come with that feature already and always check your mix in mono.
It does good for high freqs and "opens" the mix. |
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diogo_c
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Posted : Jan 7, 2009 21:46
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Sometimes it can be useful. SOMETIMES. When a song REALLY asks for it. Best one IMO is Flux Stereo Tool. And it's free. Google for it.
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ecsmix
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Posted : Jan 9, 2009 17:58
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hmm I never installed that one but I know Flux kick ass but it is pricey I will try this free as the transient one.
I usually use sonalksis and ozone ones.
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Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 10, 2009 03:15
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle
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Posted : Jan 10, 2009 05:08
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ozone multiband ms delays create terrible phase , just check if it works in mono too..
im using FL native mixer "stereo width" usualy if needed (more for making mono then open the stereo but that happens too)
for mastering wablabs native plug is just doing the job exacly as i imagine it should 
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