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Steinberg / Yamaha - Cubase AI
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-aeon-
Aeon
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Posted : Dec 9, 2008 12:29:54
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sometime next year i need a new interface.
i want something with loads of simultaneous I/O so i can hook up everything i use daily (virus has 6 outputs and 2 ins, an FX unit with another 2 i/o). digital connectivity would be useful for the future. i was looking at a MOTU 828, an Edirol FA-101, or maybe an Alesis IO26. then i saw this:
http://www.steinberg.net/en/products...x_details.html
not bad for the spec... the integration with Cubase looks seriously useful. plus it includes AI4, which is a cheapish way to get on the Cubase4 ladder.
the only possible competitor i can see is the N8 series mixers:
http://www.dv247.com/invt/40676/
which also look really awesome and it would be LUSH to have a nice mixer as well...
anyone seen or used either of these?
i am VERY interested in the N8 mixer interface... looks amazing. |
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Kane
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Posted : Dec 9, 2008 14:20
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No experience with the Steinberg one, but I can recommend the FA-101..price isn't too bad and it's incredibly durable. Have you considered an interface/control surface combination?
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Dec 9, 2008 15:32
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I have similar needs and I have the RME Fireface 800. It works well.
Converterwise i'd say RME is definitly better than Alesis and Edirol.
As for the Motu. Before I bought the RME I read a lot about these two and bottom line was clearly that the RME is superior in sound. I think it was the MK2 of the Motu.
As for the steinberg thing... maybe good, don't know it.
I'm registred cubase user and I can't recommend steinberg as a company. but I can't recommend native instruments, akai, roland (is edirol and boss), clavia either. some of them do not fix bugs for too long or have strong conceptional weaknesses or bad/unfriendly/uncomplete support.
Good companies, meaning good products, good user/wish interaction, good support for me are: Access, RME, Motu, Novation.
RME has unfriendly support too, but the products are good.
From my personal experience.
I wouldn't trust Alesis as a brand in interfaces. A friend has a smaller one and I was surprised how a product with such bad drivers can make it to the market. don't know about the big one though.
maybe www.gearslutz.com can give you some more answers too.
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Kane
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Posted : Dec 9, 2008 15:40
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An RME interface would be awesome if it's within budget..I probably wouldn't want to use it live, just because of the risk of having it stolen or broken. I've never had an RME interface, but I just got an ADI-2 for monitoring D/A and have no complaints. I haven't heard good things about MOTU interfaces though..people seem to be either just satisfied or extremely disappointed, especially with their customer support. If you end up getting one, I'd suggest buying a 1 year warranty from a legit distributor too.
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Get-a-fix
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Posted : Dec 9, 2008 16:40
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Tryptagon
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Posted : Dec 9, 2008 19:47
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Rme,u will never be dissapointed 4 shure.
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-aeon-
Aeon
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Posted : Dec 10, 2008 11:19
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thanks very much everyone!
i have used a pretty ordinary soundcard for the first 5 years i have been producing... this time i want to buy something with really good converters.
RME is on the table... and thanks for suggesting the Audiofire, i didn't know they did a 12ch version!
at the moment i am really keen on the integration with Cubase, hence looking at the AI products... worth mentioning that Yamaha own Steinberg now, so it seems less likely they'd abandon the hardware. also, both the MR soundcard and the N-Series mixers can be used with other DAWs as well, and both have got really good reviews in terms of sound.
i just keep coming back to the integration. it seems like a lovely way to work!
you can assign, record & monitor channels in Cubase just by pressing buttons on the mixer. plus with the 'wet' button you can monitor with the inserts in cubase  it also lets you control the onboard reverb and compressors from within Cubase...
you could write a track, use groups to make 12 channels, then actually mix it and record the output, either to stereo or channel-by-channel.
i think i will probably go for the N8 mixer... i really want a hands-on experience. and the little extras (one-click routing, monitoring with VSTs, transport controls etc.) make it pretty attractive.
but then the other option is to buy the RME400 or Echo now and get a standalone mixer later...
hmm. decisions!
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psylevation
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Posted : Dec 12, 2008 03:42
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I'm going to be keeping an eye on the Steinberg products and watching out for some reviews. The seamless integration sounds really nice, plus there are some on-board DSP plugins as well. If they are any good (such as the REV-X reverb) that would help to take a little strain of the CPU as well.
It's worth digging into at least imo.
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Xamanist
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Posted : Dec 12, 2008 18:31
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i'm thinking about buying on of those yamaha mixers with cubase ai4 too, pretty soon...
review later ehehe
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