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Static glitch, electronic noises?

aciduss
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 19:43:25
Hi, anyone knows a method to achieve those crazy sounds that feature static and crazy glitchy bleeps? I'm guessing a lot of editing but where to get source sounds? like circuit bending machines and stuff :/

thnx
faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 19:45
hey i do A TON of that, most of my new music is based of sampling things.

basically treat everything and anything as a sound source, put a ton of fx on everything and cut up everything.

add me on fb if you wanna discuss stuff           
The Way Back
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willsanquil
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 21:47
My favorite method for this is to use Zebra and crank up the self oscillating filters while putting the random glide LFO setting on the pitch and tweak around.

Bounce a couple different 4 bar sections with different parameters then chop it up and go hunting!            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
www.soundcloud.com/tasp
www.soundcloud.com/kinematic-records
aXis
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 22:05
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On 2011-08-16 21:47, willsanquil wrote:
My favorite method for this is to use Zebra and crank up the self oscillating filters while putting the random glide LFO setting on the pitch and tweak around.

Bounce a couple different 4 bar sections with different parameters then chop it up and go hunting!




OR

Start wit a high freq modulated higher octave note. modulate ur Fm synthesis lfo and pwm

Starting wit a square wav generally gets u really close to the cinematic tizzzz sound.
jekvan
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 22:58
In flstudio,there is a scratching tool.You can put a sample there,scratch all you like and record it.Great for the glitchy stuff.

You can add additional effects on that insert and get even greater stuff.

          From all the things I lost,that sandwitch cost me most :)


http://soundcloud.com/jekvan
psyraal
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 23:18
If you wanted gated or different rhythms get stormgate.           
https://soundcloud.com/neervos
aciduss
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 23:28
Thanks for the info guys... yeah i'm more interested in sound sources than in editing methods, cause i can pretty much imagine how to arrange sounds to be dynamic but i lack this textures and random sound squidly bleeps...

Starting to experiment with some darkware plugins and free experimental vsts that can produce strange stuff.
willsanquil
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 23:47
A lot of the squidly bleeps are hard to produce just by themselves and can be more easily found hidden in between a mess of horrible sounding shit in my experience            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
www.soundcloud.com/tasp
www.soundcloud.com/kinematic-records
PoM
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Posted : Aug 17, 2011 00:22
have no idea what the sound you are talking about is it a kind of fx sound ? sound to me like sample&hold lfo modulation kind of patch? it s similar to will description , look for sample and hold modulation fx on google.












aciduss
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Posted : Aug 17, 2011 00:34
I know what S&H is man... but this seems a little more complex...

Check out this demo from a samples cd
http://alien-imaging.com/warp/WARP_DEMO_FINAL_128.mp3

I dont want to buy the pack, wanna make my own. ;P
PoM
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Posted : Aug 17, 2011 00:39
yeah it s not the same asi was thiniking, have no idea how the dry synth sounded in these samples it seems so much edited/layered with stuff used for glitching or manually, maybe they used samples and synthesis to create these too... with something like zebra would be a good starting point with all the modulation to make a nice fx sound and then use something that make slutter and all these weird glitchy stuff automatically (bit/rate recuder stutter stretch and co) after it and tweak both at same time.. bounce edit ..tweak again the synth and stutter fx to make others layers.. i think it could lead you close to these sounds more easily than editing everything manually.. maybe they just use a good stutter fx and some fx sample from a other librarie lol
Axis Mundi
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Posted : Aug 17, 2011 03:49
Modulating the pitch is a good start, and if you can modulate the pitch quickly enough (that is, a high enough rate frequency) you can begin approaching static and/or robot vocal sounds (depending on oscillators). Noise oscillators and FM synthesis can produce a lot, as well as a high resonant filter cutoff modulated quickly enough (especially with pitch modulation). Personally I prefer S&H or S&G LFOs operating off-quantize whose rates are assigned to a knob, and handmade knob automation edited into semi rhythmical movements. If you can get two oscillators doing this in a synth patch, it will add richness and extreme dissonance to a sound by operating on two (or more) wildly differing pitches at once. Of course, there are a lot of ways to make squelches, but those are where I personally start.
willsanquil
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Posted : Aug 17, 2011 03:59
loop a zebra envelope really fast and link it to pitch. crazy audio rate manipulation            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
www.soundcloud.com/tasp
www.soundcloud.com/kinematic-records
Kolishin Methud


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Posted : Aug 17, 2011 11:10
Lots of LFO's and Fx modulation and then maybe some manual chopping. there is alot you can do depending on the time and place for the particular sound. The audio demo you posted sounded pretty wicked... but alot of fm, filtering, fx modulations, and i hear alot of distortion and overdrive and bitcrush. try out gross beat for some wacky stuff as well           http://soundcloud.com/brentmalik
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