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vision dream
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Posted : Dec 10, 2009 08:23:58
first I give notice that I'm something new about the balancing of the spectrum, and some data quisera know as well as the help I can give about how I can equalize the frequencies of the kick is 30 hz to 58 hz. according as I have measured my kicks, and the bass line is almost the same frequency range, certainly! but I equalizer to attenuate some frequencies not be misheard, and mix horribly ,.... I would like to ask the frequencies of the pads to leads .. just where can I find information about the balance of the frequencies spectrum ... as puediron see I am very new about it, opens it would be easier but I saw that it is not .... thank you very much for having avence ayuda.yprometo and represent.
PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Dec 10, 2009 12:16
Open a spectrum analyzer (eg multiinspector free) on the master channel, then solo the track and see what u have in the freq domain           http://mystic-sound.com/releases/ioon-cosmic-downtempo-9314-oclock/
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vision dream
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Posted : Dec 11, 2009 17:29
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On 2009-12-10 12:16, PsyGalaXy wrote:
Open a spectrum analyzer (eg multiinspector free) on the master channel, then solo the track and see what u have in the freq domain






sure!! i did it before.. i meant the range of freqs that each instruments needs to be. or fit!!!.... kick line, bass line and the other stuff,so that the mixture of channels is not saturated and do not pile on the same frequencies and heard a disaster is that is or may be called the balance .. It is how to measure, to which I refer is that certain frequencies must rise in db and that both would be optimal and that both would be good to lower it into db, for example the kick would be best to use the range of 48 to 60 hz and 55hz up in 3 less than 48 db and lower -3 dB, so you do not hear low frequencies suffocated with the bass line ....
Pythagoraz
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Posted : Dec 11, 2009 18:18
Ideally one should avoid any EQing on the bassline really. Especially if it changes notes during the track. Kicks kan normally take a bit more EQ punishing.

This is all thereticly correct, but in reality I always give up and do some EQing on both because it's easier (quicker) that way... I would never use a spectrum analyser though. Unless my studio setup was terrible and I therefor could'nt count on my ears.

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vision dream
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Posted : Dec 13, 2009 04:07
Well i search for spectrum and get some eq, this will help to topic of freq of spectrum.. or no??? iam fedd my topic with auto-feedback







http://www.filefront.com/14752057/mixing.zip
vision dream
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Posted : Dec 13, 2009 11:33
i found this in link i metioned before .. anyone could talk about it????
i found what exactly was looking for and complement this topic and i and you could learn more,

Kick drum
40hz 80hz gives the drum body
80hz 120hz gives the drum punchiness
150hz 300hz to much will make the drum sound muddy
1khz 8khzgives the drum prensece and punchiness

8khz contains the click a t the attack of the drum


Bass line
40hz 160hz gives the bass smoothness and fullness
140hz 400hz give the bass character and personality, as well as audibility.bass line are hard to generelaze because there i so much variety the most important thing to think about when eq your bassline is how it interacts with kick drum probably need to sacrifice something from each of them to make work together


elesede


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Posted : Dec 13, 2009 18:20
vision dream, all of this "Hz's Table" are orientative data, u can have a bassline and
kick with principal reference in 55Hz (A1-LA)
but u dont need to equalize the frequencies in 30-80hz (example).... the frequencie Hz indicates what note is your sound (http://podcomplex.com/images/keyboard-note-frequency-chart.gif) the best is make a kick in the same Hz with the bassline, but equalize is another job, kick and bassline dont need necesary the same eq,the best is use ur ears.... every bassline is a world ^^

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Psydust
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Posted : Dec 13, 2009 19:45
EQ on bassline should be minimal and surgical due to long character of low frequency waves.
eq should not be necessarily avoided just because bass notes vary, each particular note can be cut from .wav and equalized separately.
I do not usually rely on frequency specifications on what each region does, since i fall into fallacy of thinking that by boosting lets say 40hz will automatically make bass smoother and full, which in turn creates issues in the other frequency band.
its best to use EQ by means of filtering unwanted frequencies rather than boosting them.. especially in the low regions.
vision dream
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Posted : Dec 14, 2009 06:37
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On 2009-12-13 18:20, elesede wrote:
vision dream, all of this "Hz's Table" are orientative data, u can have a bassline and
kick with principal reference in 55Hz (A1-LA)
but u dont need to equalize the frequencies in 30-80hz (example).... the frequencie Hz indicates what note is your sound (http://podcomplex.com/images/keyboard-note-frequency-chart.gif) the best is make a kick in the same Hz with the bassline, but equalize is another job, kick and bassline dont need necesary the same eq,the best is use ur ears.... every bassline is a world ^^

pd: si entiendes español te lo podria explicar bastante mejor





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