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Spectrum Analizers? Which one do You use?

D-Alien
Oxidelic

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Posted : May 29, 2006 22:46
Reading some post here, I've founded there is too little info about spectrum analizers. Or maybe I didnt do the search well.

So.. I used to know the spectrum analizer form sound forge, but its so blurred and inacurate...

a friend gave me this link
http://www.exactaudiocopy.de a free software for ripping cds but it has an internal analizer that is very good. contrast image, very good definition, fast refreshment

here posting some pics of how it represents wav tracks...
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/deliankristoff/kikbas-spectrum.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/d-alien/wavmp3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/d-alien/spectrum.jpg

but one thing that boders me is that the same is not algoritmic but linear. the freqs are represented as equal and in an harmonic order where the low freqs are bigger and the high are smaller...

please share what kind of spectrum analizer do you use?


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dezma


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Posted : May 29, 2006 22:48
[url]http://www.kvraudio.com/get/637.html[/url]
Good free plugin, I use it for analysing           [url]www.dezma.be[/url]
D-Alien
Oxidelic

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Posted : May 29, 2006 23:02
yeah man.

its from the elemental pack. and the pay version is still better!!! But anyway.. its not a spectral analizer, but just freq-gain analizer. what i meant was a color-related spectral analizer as i posted

thankx anyway

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Luxor
Luxor

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Posted : May 29, 2006 23:03
RME Digicheck - Its the best for sure


http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/RME/PR/DIGICheck-Totalyser-lg.gif

D-Alien
Oxidelic

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Posted : May 29, 2006 23:15
...mmm yeah it looks great but its still a multiband analyzer and a curve one. but not an image one, i mean, the spectrum represented by Colors, low gain - blue, violet colors, strong gain, yellow - white colors...           Sound:
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Trip-
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : May 30, 2006 08:15
D alien,
the analyzer you showed is a 3d analyzer with frequency range, amplitude range and a time range. Most analyzers are without the time dimension representation....           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 30, 2006 16:47
I use SpectraLab and a Marantz Hi-Fi spectrum analyser.
http://www.psypix.net/pix/albums/userpics/10088/SpectraLab.jpg
http://www.psypix.net/pix/albums/userpics/10088/Marantz.jpg           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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Triton


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Posted : May 30, 2006 17:59
Elemental Audio Systems Inspector XL           http://soundcloud.com/portable-disaster-unit
Ghost Host
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : May 30, 2006 18:37
agree with Triton, once i meet Inspector XL i don't need anything else
D-Alien
Oxidelic

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Posted : May 30, 2006 19:02
sure Elemental. We've mentioned it already. I have it too. is just magnificent but anyway.. its image (3d) representation of the sound is not acurate. The pic Colin gave us looks very good. People, anyway I speak abouat just one type of Analisis. The image one (3d, with color spectrum representation). Anything else is just fine, but not my question...

Untill now We have

EAC - Image (3d) spectrum analisis (stand alone program)
SpectraLab - Image (3d) spectrum analisis, but I'm afraid its just in RTAS format... no vst..
Elemental IXL Pack - It has an Image Spectral analisis but its quality is poor and not acurate enough (speaking just for the image one, dont get me wrong. all other spectrum analizers from Elemental are Magnificent)
Soundforge - Image spectrum analisis (very poor and inacurate)...


Why am I so crazy about the image representation of the sound, cuz apart to see the gain of every freq one can apreciate much more, how a phazer acts over a sound, or a lfanger or a reverb. no other spectrum analisis can represent us this. For exapmple. If u have 3 same samples. One u play without any effect, the second with a phaser, the third with flanger. With multiband analizer u wont see diference, with curve analizer..hmm maybe small one, but with the image one (3d)!!!!! Another Story...
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sonik_akb


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Posted : May 30, 2006 20:59
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On 2006-05-30 16:47, Colin OOOD wrote:
I use SpectraLab and a Marantz Hi-Fi spectrum analyser.
http://www.psypix.net/pix/albums/userpics/10088/SpectraLab.jpg
http://www.psypix.net/pix/albums/userpics/10088/Marantz.jpg


Do you think it's better to have a spectrum analyser hardware? I know these are very expensive! At my work, we have a lot of them (accurate and precise) and EXPENSIVE!
Is Marantz Hi-Fi spectrum analyser good?
D-Alien
Oxidelic

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Posted : May 30, 2006 22:13
so, here I'm posting a simple example
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/d-alien/spectrum-test.jpg

4examples of the same 10sec sample from a wav track.
first is the original image, than the same with flange all over it, than phaser, and than some ring modulation filter. So, you see that with a multiband analizer one cannot see the diference between the phaser and flanger... but on th image they are so obviously Diferent. Thats why I'm asking for other spectrum analizers.. but Image one. where one can see much more than gain-freq meters... even if there are hundreds of them... Spectral Image is another thing. One can see how the Music Paints!!!
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Spindrift
Spindrift

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Posted : May 31, 2006 09:51
I don't use Analizer plugins           (``·.¸(``·.¸(``·.¸¸.·`´)¸.·`´)¸.·`´)
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D-Alien
Oxidelic

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Posted : Jun 1, 2006 17:15
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On 2006-05-31 09:51, Spindrift wrote:
I don't use Analizer plugins




...but still u analize your creations, right? if not secret share it here
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 1, 2006 19:30
Quote:

On 2006-05-30 20:59, sonik_akb wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-05-30 16:47, Colin OOOD wrote:
I use SpectraLab and a Marantz Hi-Fi spectrum analyser.
http://www.psypix.net/pix/albums/userpics/10088/SpectraLab.jpg
http://www.psypix.net/pix/albums/userpics/10088/Marantz.jpg


Do you think it's better to have a spectrum analyser hardware? I know these are very expensive! At my work, we have a lot of them (accurate and precise) and EXPENSIVE!
Is Marantz Hi-Fi spectrum analyser good?



If you want to use a spectrum analyser (and many people get fantastic results without them) and have access to a hardware unit, this is almost certainly the way to go IMO. FFT analysis is relatively CPU-intensive, and personally i want to use my computer for making sounds rather than painting pretty pictures, so I run SpectraLab on a laptop next to my main music machine. SpectraLab isn't a plugin but a stand-alone application. The Marantz is a useful complement to it, and gives a good idea of the density of sound in the various frequency areas. It's far from an accurate tool though.

BTW Spindrift probably uses his 'ears'... remember them?           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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