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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 16:25
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I heard and subsequently read in the net that there are Power cords specifically engineered for Audio systems and that they are supposedly improve the overall sound. Know i personally didn't hear them, and after several years of dealing with Electronics i can't see how nowadays digital audio equipment can be affected by the quality of power cords. Notice that i am speaking about the power cords that connect the Audio unit to the electrical grid and not about cords that passes audio signal from unit to unit that indeed have influence on the quality.
Anybody has any experience with the issue personally?
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 16:31
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Pavel: It is bullshit. Thiefs trying to make money of gullible people ...
Think about it, you have miles and miles of cables from the power station to the local distribution center. Then you have a few miles of cable to the box in your street. Then you have a few hundred meters of cable to the fuse box in your house. Then you have dozens of meters of (cheap) cable to the socket in your wall. And suddenly 2 meters of expensive cable is going to fix all the rest? Yeah right!
Some of these cables cost thousands of dollars/euros. Great business to be in. 
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 16:34
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I know it's bullshit, i heard it from a man with many many years in the sound recording/mixing/mastering field. There are so many Voodoo companies recently that earn bucks on fooling the consumers. I had an idea selling an Audio enhanced MIDI cable. I bet people would pay well for something like that.
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 16:58
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Pavel, the main market for all this stuff is the "Audiophile" world. Usualy it is people with too much money but not enough sense.
In pro audio, audiophile has become synonymous with fool .... Some people write it audiophool.
If you want to make money, don't sell to poor musicians that don't have much money. Sell to rich idiots. All you need is to find a cheap manufacturer that can build you something for 5$ a piece but that looks slick. Nice pyramidal shakti stones or maybe some special toroidal piece of brass with a nice marble base. Anything that looks expensive but isn't. Then write a nice pseudo scientific bullshit story about how the properties of the material absorb the bad ion flux arround the equipment or something like that.
Now you can sell this item over the internet for 200$ a piece or more. Actually, the higher you set your price, the more likely you are to convince some fool that it must really work for that price!
And don't worry about complaints. 95% of the people that buy this stuff _will_ hear a difference. It is called the placebo effect. And the 5% that are realistic enough to realise that thy do not hear a difference will probably be too embarrassed to ask for their money back.
It really is a golden business ... if you don't mind being a total *ssh*l that rips people off ...
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PS: If hippies had money you could sell it to them. Afterall they buy crystals and charms and god knows what. But they are usualy broke. Oh wait ... is that a crystal and a mini statue of Shiva above my PC monitor? Oops. 
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 17:10
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The guy that i heard about the Power cords from has over 20 years of experience. He had gold and platinum album sells in the US and most of the time has a valid opinion on the issue. He didn't hear the cables effect himself but a friend of his whom he trusts heard and says that there is a difference. The cords cost his friend 500$ btw.
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 17:14
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I've read about several audio engineers that have indeed bought this kind of stuff. I guess even they are not immune to this kind of thing. The power of the imagination ...
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 20:14
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 21:44
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Sounds like the G5 power supply doesn't filter the line properly then. Not a good thing.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 22:20
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 23:05
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Colin, Yes I understand. There wouldn't be much point in using power cables with CMMR if the power of the studio wasn't filtered and the wiring in the wall wasn't either shielded, twisted or both. I was talking about the PSU in the G5. I thought it would have filters too.
Does the G5 have a soundcard or is it just the on-board audio? Dirty power input shouldn't really affect a pro soundcard's output.
Oh well ...
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Kitnam
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Posted : Apr 7, 2006 23:51
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in germany we like to make people believe fairy tales in the first day of april. its a kind of tradition.
i nearly succeed to make someone believe that the voov wont happen this year, because of trouble with the government for example.
anyway you are a few days too late my friend
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Apr 8, 2006 01:55
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Two Lynx 16-channel digital cards... conversion by an Apogee AD16-X and Rosetta 800. However it seems that at the time this problem manifested itself (which was before I got here), the Mac was using the internal soundcard - as you rightly suggested - , and was not being powered from the Furman. In this case, changing the power cable cured the noise. All I can think is that the railway signalling induced enough noise in the standard cable to get past the Mac's PSU filtering and affect the output of the onboard soundcard, when otherwise unfiltered mains power was being used. Sorry for any confusion!
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Posted : Apr 8, 2006 12:35
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Colin, that all makes sense then.
There is nothing wrong with using twisted and/or shielded cables but they can be had for a reasonable price. The bottom line is that a 500 Euro/$/UKP power cable is a ripp-off.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Apr 8, 2006 13:19
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Posted : Apr 8, 2006 16:06
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I just reread Pavel's original post and he didn't mention price. For some reason I automaticly thought of the rip-off cable companies.
My mistake!
Probably because he wrote "improve the overal sound" which is bullshit and sounds like the marketing of such rip-off companies. Some cables can help things that are broken (power supplies in this case) but they won't make the converters themselves sound better or anything.
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