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vipal
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Posted : Apr 28, 2009 17:36:27
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i want to sync my TI (that i run on a seperate laptop) by spdif with my motu828 in SX3 but i cannot find a spdif cable here in costarica. i see s-video cables and was wondering if these cables could do the job of a spdif cable. anyone? |
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Tomos
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Posted : Apr 28, 2009 17:55
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Being that SPDIF is digital, any cable that fits will work. (Providing its not optical)
I pulled a phono lead in half and have one from my Virus to my DAC1.
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Posted : Apr 28, 2009 20:11
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what Tomos said
and really, spdif cable is a phono tip cable. s-video is different.
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Posted : Apr 28, 2009 21:08
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S/PDIF for syncing? wouldn't a MIDI cable (MTC) be more appropriate?
i guess a regular cinch cable may have the disadvance that it's not shielded as good as a regular yellow coax S/PDIF cable.
if it's only a short distance (and no interfering devices around it) - it should work. http://www.myspace.com/realtimeproject |
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Posted : Apr 28, 2009 22:23
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On 2009-04-28 17:55, Tomos wrote:
Being that SPDIF is digital, any cable that fits will work. (Providing its not optical)
I pulled a phono lead in half and have one from my Virus to my DAC1.
It works..
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Yes audio will be transmitted, but you cannot clock with any analog cable. For that indeed a spdif is needed. If you really cannot find a spdif cable in Costa Rica, I would buy one over any website like
www.audiomidi.com
or
www.zzsounds.com
and have it shipped. Yes, it will be more expensive but you will have the cable you need. If you have midi cables you can sync with that as well btw.
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Tomos
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Posted : Apr 29, 2009 01:05
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There is no audio over SPDIF, only digital information. So what's to stop you using it to clock? Or am I missing something?
Perhaps not relevant, but amusing - According to the delightfully helpful Benchmark DAC manual, all tests concluded that the cable made absolutely zero difference to sound quality. They recommend you buy the cheapest cable you can. Upto 15 feet (!) in length will make no different to the jitter or quality of the decoded audio.
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RK9
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Posted : Apr 29, 2009 02:05
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On 2009-04-28 22:23, Upavas wrote:
Yes audio will be transmitted, but you cannot clock with any analog cable.
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lol there is no such thing as an "analog cable" or "digital cable"
if the ends of the cable fit the connectors, it will work. This is not true in general but it IS true with spdif |
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Posted : Apr 29, 2009 02:41
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S/PDIF cables are specified at 75 ohm impedance.
for sure it will matter which data-rate you shove over the cable and
it matters if the input device got jitter correction or not (like the Benchmark DAC has).
the reason why these cables were specified co-axial is the shielding.
wouldn't recommend high-end cables, since the difference in sound won't justify the difference in price.
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Upavas
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Posted : Apr 29, 2009 09:57
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True, there is no analog or digital cable, but there are cables transmitting digital information and there are cables transmitting analog information, I was relating to that in my previous post.
Spdif transmits digital audio signals. With a spdif cable you have 2 channels of audio.
You also have work clock transmitted with Spdif, so you can use it to sync and to transmit digital audio!
You'd be surprised at the many times I found myself saved from desaster with a spdif cable handy!
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Posted : Apr 29, 2009 11:46
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On 2009-04-29 09:57, Upavas wrote:
but there are cables transmitting digital information and there are cables transmitting analog information,
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No cables that i know of are capable of transmitting information  , as far as i know they work as a conductor for signal information between a transmitter and a receiver
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With a spdif cable you have 2 channels of audio.
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I can see that you can have 4 channels if bit.nr 3 is set to true. On the other hand you can do 7.1 sound over SPDIF as well anyone with some more info on that?
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Posted : Apr 29, 2009 14:00
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Kane
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Posted : Apr 29, 2009 16:00
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I believe the video cables in cheap RCA sets (yellow, red, white) are generally closer to 75 ohm than the audio ones, which are more like 50. If you have to use a cheap one, go with a video cable, but I really recommend just getting an s/pdif cable. 
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vipal
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Posted : Apr 29, 2009 21:01
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thanks guys,
its indeed a short distance, i will try the regular audio cable first as i still have that and if thats not working, i try a video cable, if this fails, i have to order spdif. |
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Kane
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Posted : Apr 30, 2009 03:35
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Try the video cable first..I'm not sure how much truth there is to my last statement, but if you have one laying around it can't hurt anything. Go for the shortest cable possible, and no more than 3 meters.
I think you should still invest in a decent spdif cable..good to have around, even if this is only a temporary thing.
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vipal
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Posted : Apr 30, 2009 20:31
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yeas you are right, gonne order a spdif cable, its anyhow only ten bucks (its just the creditcard bs that always keeps me from ordering by internet) |
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