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The Green Channel
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Posted : Aug 23, 2005 10:18
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On 2005-08-23 10:08, Krell wrote:
I dont think HandA has any issues with israelis at all...
Actually, he has in a danish forum praised israelis for professionalism in party organizing in comparison to their danish counterparts....
So, if anything, he likes israelis.
So much for that idea.
@HandA
I think, perhaps you get so much psyspam from israel because they have a big psy scene there... Its not only the size of their scene which will maximize the amount of spam you receive, its also how much the israelis have to compete with one another... Bigger scene = more competition = more aggressive marketing.
So, some will be pressured into spamming more easily than what you see in a nation which has a smaller psy scene.
Or at least, thats my theory 
Best Wishes.
Krell
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As always, an excellent answer Krell...
  "Love is a way of life"
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Bloodclot
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Posted : Aug 23, 2005 10:38
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Indeed a rude response. Agree with Krell, maybe cos its the largest place for psy trance music! I get spam mails all the time .. including FRAUD one's too! Why do you even need to reply, the 'block' function works really well.
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HandA
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Posted : Aug 23, 2005 11:07
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On 2005-08-23 10:38, Bloodclot wrote:
Why do you even need to reply, the 'block' function works really well.
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Because I had enough. The recent weeks have been especially busy from USTA and alike.
And it seemed to work even with his rude response. He took me off the list. Or so he wrote. One can only hope
It was only because there was another more official e-mail address in the spam that I wrote him back. Normally I never respond to their phony e-mail adresses that basically just generate new spam when you write to them.
Again I want to stress that I of course get spam from other countries as everybody else do. And lots of it...sadly. But when it come to trance related spam 80% of it come from Israel. If saying that here in this forum makes me a person with issues against Israel then my name is Dumbo.
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Aug 23, 2005 11:26
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On 2005-08-23 11:07, HandA wrote:
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On 2005-08-23 10:38, Bloodclot wrote:
Why do you even need to reply, the 'block' function works really well.
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Because I had enough. The recent weeks have been especially busy from USTA and alike.
And it seemed to work even with his rude response. He took me off the list. Or so he wrote. One can only hope
It was only because there was another more official e-mail address in the spam that I wrote him back. Normally I never respond to their phony e-mail adresses that basically just generate new spam when you write to them.
Again I want to stress that I of course get spam from other countries as everybody else do. And lots of it...sadly. But when it come to trance related spam 80% of it come from Israel. If saying that here in this forum makes me a person with issues against Israel then my name is Dumbo.
Nice answer krel
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Off topic:
Yes my good friend , the fact that you post on a forum called "ISRA T....." should show that you have nothing against Israelis. Furthermore as far as I know you have even lived in Israel. People please stop this personal war against HandA, he has a lot of solid opinions, let him express them.
I understand that under the current political climate people from Israel tent to be sensitive (which is perfectly understandable ), I would also feel bad if a lot of people with-out any political or historical knowledge would bad mouth my country constantly. In addition, I have seen some posts, even on this forum (absolutely not by HandA) that show that some people still stigmatize the Jewish people in the same manner the Nazis did, or the current white power movements or the Neo-Nazis for instance. This makes me awfully sad that people have learned absolutely nothing from these dark-times.
PS. HandA please send me a post soon with the available dates in your calendar, you must come by the radio soon . Although I’ll be in Greece until 31th of august, cheers.
"Love is a way of life"
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Willy Wonka
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Posted: Aug 23, 2005
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Once you express yourself like, "endless spam coming from Israel" you get similar responce. He could not to mention nation and then the responce was different. He wanted to add Israel because he likes to argue all over this place.
Green Channel if you would say most of spam coming from ISrael i won't mind because one day you will say about Israel and other day about somewhere else. While Handa's speeches always contain something about Israel (ie. cheesy music of Israel, spam out of Israel....).
Once he lived in Israel he made clear political views about Israeli politics and he argued over with left winged crowd (the ones who agree with 67' borders and wish peace). He made even them pissed off so it is just a continue to his so called "war". |
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HandA
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Posted : Aug 23, 2005 13:59
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On 2005-08-23 13:36, Willy Wonka wrote:
Once he lived in Israel he made clear political views about Israeli politics and he argued over with left winged crowd (the ones who agree with 67' borders and wish peace). He made even them pissed off so it is just a continue to his so called "war".
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I would like to know who you are?...do you got a name? You seem to know so much about me personal. I also like to know what I have ever done to you? It seem to me you have some heavy grudge or hate against me and whatever I write no matter the topic you find something "hidden" in my words that are "against" Israel.
One thing is to debate politely about this topic's actual content and not your offtopic rambling aganst me.
But when you start to make up stories about me and analyse me and my intentions when you never once met me is a whole differnt issue and frankly quite insulting!
If you got issues about me then contact me in private.. Dont make this into a hate topic against me because you see "red" whenever I write something.
And once again I will stress that 80% of trancerelated spam that I recieve come from Israel..The rest 20% come from various countries. It's not anything to do with me hating Israel or wanting to start fights here (your the one starting fights)..
It's just a fact that most spam I get is from Israel!
Why is that so bad to mention it here? Could it be that your oversensetive and overreact a bit?
Sorry for the  I would prefer that willy would contact me in private if he/she have issues against me but somehow i dont think he/she really have the guts to do it and somehow I get the feeling he/she feed of these small "fights" in public...sadly though.
So Willy once again. Contact me in private if you got something to say to me.. If not then get on with your life. I wont reply to you anymore here. |
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Outolintu
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Posted : Aug 23, 2005 15:45
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i've managed to keep myself mostly out of
the way of spammers. i get maybe 1-5 spams
a month (no joke, for real).
maybe your just a too interesting and important figure in our little trance community to get so much spam, dumbo? 
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s0ft
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Posted : Aug 23, 2005 16:10
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im quite impressed with gmail's spam filters. i get less than 3 in a couple weeks. for the first time ever, i dont hesitate to give out my email address.
everyone should know about www.dodgeit.com . its a temp email address (with no sign up or cost) used for signing up for things you think might use your email for spamming. emails are only saved for a week. its saved me a ton of times.
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s0ft
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Posted : Aug 23, 2005 18:53
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also, has anyone noticed getting more spam in your isratrance message system? i have gotten 2 within the last couple of weeks. thats not enough to bitch about, but its just strange that its happening now. usually, its someone promoting a track and giving a link to the thread to comment on it.
to me it seems so impersonal, so ctrl-c ctrl-v. if you want my opinion, make it a bit more friendly, a little less massproduced. i'll be more than happy to give an opinion.
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Kitnam
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Posted : Aug 23, 2005 23:08
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On 2005-08-23 04:23, Willy Wonka wrote:
Now, how do you know it's hebrew?, maybe it's Al-Quada recruiting you to their lines on arabic? You seem pretty bored and extreme so i don't think they should miss the opportunity the sign such a potential!
Moreover, i feel alot of anger in your voice! I don't know where it comes from but you should find other way to release the anger rather posting something about Israel, nation that you so like to argue about!
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talkig to me? |
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DeathPosture
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Posted : Aug 24, 2005 01:21
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On 2005-08-23 16:10, s0ft wrote:
everyone should know about http://www.dodgeit.com . its a temp email address (with no sign up or cost) used for signing up for things you think might use your email for spamming. emails are only saved for a week. its saved me a ton of times.
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www.mailinator.com does the same trick... A handy tool for sure!
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On 2005-08-23 18:53, s0ft wrote:
also, has anyone noticed getting more spam in your isratrance message system? i have gotten 2 within the last couple of weeks. thats not enough to bitch about, but its just strange that its happening now. usually, its someone promoting a track and giving a link to the thread to comment on it.
to me it seems so impersonal, so ctrl-c ctrl-v. if you want my opinion, make it a bit more friendly, a little less massproduced. i'll be more than happy to give an opinion.
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Yeah - I get that too... What is this - a dating site now where you just mass-PM everyone about your new tracks? I don't mind commenting on tracks - I just want a personal PM that's all!
/DP
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Surrender
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Posted : Aug 24, 2005 01:26
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there is also something called "mailwasher". it lets you filter spam and then what it does is it sends a bounce (email does not exist) msg back to the spammer.
some spammers who update their lists from such replies will remove you 
"On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Aug 24, 2005 04:16
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Common HandA i just analyse things you say, nothing against you personally! Just the point is you are web designer, so you know all the shite around internet world then why the heck to start discussion about subject you know by yourself, you can clean email, using filters available at tools bar of your email provider, but you brought this subject with Israel at start. So somehow i think the main idea was your personal hate to ISraeli labels and music not as you trying to show me calling you anti ISraeli, i just think you hate Israeli psytrance and labels. Once again i explain myself clearly and you seem to miss the point of what i say! I just analyse things you say and see that many times you remind Israel as bad music, bad labels and bad related to psytrance subjects. So it is naturally i will think you start the topics to bash Israeli psytrance. |
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HandA
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Posted : Aug 24, 2005 09:48
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On 2005-08-24 04:16, Willy Wonka wrote:
Common HandA i just analyse things you say, nothing against you personally! Just the point is you are web designer, so you know all the shite around internet world then why the heck to start discussion about subject you know by yourself, you can clean email, using filters available at tools bar of your email provider, but you brought this subject with Israel at start. So somehow i think the main idea was your personal hate to ISraeli labels and music not as you trying to show me calling you anti ISraeli, i just think you hate Israeli psytrance and labels. Once again i explain myself clearly and you seem to miss the point of what i say! I just analyse things you say and see that many times you remind Israel as bad music, bad labels and bad related to psytrance subjects. So it is naturally i will think you start the topics to bash Israeli psytrance.
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Could it be that your wrong and that you think too much without knowing what lies behind my intention with my posts? Think about that the next time before you accuse me of things you got no clue about!
If your way of analysing things include attacking me in every thread I participate in then maybe you need to change the way you "analyse" things.
I hardly see how I can misunderstand you. You assume I hate Israel and all Israeli music and labels + Israelis in general. I can only say it again. Your dead wrong dude or dudette!
As I said before. If you got issues with me.. Take it to private.
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Aug 24, 2005 13:59
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No, you just person who like to argue and u found a partner! Don't say you don't like me or way i argue with you becuase you don't care for topics you enjoy the arguing process itself!
"Dude/Dudette", Oh! lol you must read what i wrote to female topic, then you will know what sex i am! |
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