Shiranui
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Posted : Sep 29, 2011 00:21:55
I know this is a very commercial track but I want to use it as an example:
at 4:45 the bassline slowly pitches down until it becomes percussive, at which point it slowly morphs into a piano. Whaaaat?!
My question is, did he actually create the bassline by gating a piano hit and then looping it really fast, or did he just crossfade two similar sounding sounds into each other?
at the first example the bass is pitched down until you can hear the bass spikes. as this happens the "piano" sound is faded in (plays at the same time , so probably gated to the bass).
the second one is not as easy as the first. the drums are pitched up to a certain frequency, then highpassed, then he turns the mix of a stereo gate up and afterwards comes a crossfade to a synth with the same filter, reso and stereo gate (and some noise), after which the filter is lowered again to reveal the real synth sound.
that's what it sounds like to me anyway...
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Posted : Sep 29, 2011 13:08
Regarding the second one, bounce a 1 bar loop of your mix, throw it into a sampler, set the sampler to loop at the start and end points of your sample (the 1 bar bounced mix in this case). then start decreasing the end loop point up until it reaches the start loop point.
and Bob's your unckle.
Also, if you dig the chop/stutter audio up to high up pitch effect, download the freeware from Destroy FX - Buffer Overide.
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Posted : Sep 30, 2011 04:13
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On 2011-09-29 13:08, disco hooligans wrote:
Regarding the second one, bounce a 1 bar loop of your mix, throw it into a sampler, set the sampler to loop at the start and end points of your sample (the 1 bar bounced mix in this case). then start decreasing the end loop point up until it reaches the start loop point.
and Bob's your unckle.
Last december I was asked by a guy that produces hardstyle how to create it and apart of some nice ideas with flex modes etc (next to impossible) it remained a mystery.
Your statment seems quite logic but.. with which sampler you can automate the endlooppoint? because I had tis also in mind back than but could not find any with this option.EXS24 for instance got only sample start..but no endpoint. IN reason you cannot automate the end point that I know Im not sure but I think in battery also not.
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Shiranui
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Posted : Sep 30, 2011 08:24
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On 2011-09-29 13:08, disco hooligans wrote:
Regarding the second one, bounce a 1 bar loop of your mix, throw it into a sampler, set the sampler to loop at the start and end points of your sample (the 1 bar bounced mix in this case). then start decreasing the end loop point up until it reaches the start loop point.
and Bob's your unckle.
Well yeah I knew how to do that, it was more of the rolled effect turning into the melody that I was asking about.
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Posted : Sep 30, 2011 10:58
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On 2011-09-30 04:13, TimeTraveller wrote:
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On 2011-09-29 13:08, disco hooligans wrote:
Regarding the second one, bounce a 1 bar loop of your mix, throw it into a sampler, set the sampler to loop at the start and end points of your sample (the 1 bar bounced mix in this case). then start decreasing the end loop point up until it reaches the start loop point.
and Bob's your unckle.
Last december I was asked by a guy that produces hardstyle how to create it and apart of some nice ideas with flex modes etc (next to impossible) it remained a mystery.
Your statment seems quite logic but.. with which sampler you can automate the endlooppoint? because I had tis also in mind back than but could not find any with this option.EXS24 for instance got only sample start..but no endpoint. IN reason you cannot automate the end point that I know Im not sure but I think in battery also not.
Dunno, haven't tried this with software samplers. I could easily do it with my old AKAI S1100 and just record into Logic, my self chaning the end loop point in real time.
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Well yeah I knew how to do that, it was more of the rolled effect turning into the melody that I was asking about.
Well the whole beat goes into a resonant high pass filter that sweeps up high. I do not know if they sampled the note that comes from the end loop point being so close to the start point (ala Swedish House Mafia - I wanna Know Your Name), or if they simply faded in some sort of PWM HPF patch that has a sound that resembles the mangled beat's ending sound.
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Posted : Sep 30, 2011 11:20
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On 2011-09-30 04:13, TimeTraveller wrote:
Your statment seems quite logic but.. with which sampler you can automate the endlooppoint? because I had tis also in mind back than but could not find any with this option.EXS24 for instance got only sample start..but no endpoint. IN reason you cannot automate the end point that I know Im not sure but I think in battery also not.
most samplers (than don t sample anymore btw)will do it except the one in logic and reason it seems try kontakt
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Posted : Sep 30, 2011 12:00
wow that's promising.Need to check some other samplers. I have contact on pc will have a look. Nice.Thanks guys https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden
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Posted : Sep 30, 2011 12:26
try thomas pentons essential drums!!!
is very good and is free on the web!
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Posted : Sep 30, 2011 13:10
try kontakt 
