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Sounds other than synths for "bassline"
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Shiranui
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Posted : Apr 25, 2011 16:56:05
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My favorite type of psytrance bassline is the one that is so deep it almost feels just like a pulse, and doesn't really sound like a note.
I experimented a little bit and I found that if you take the right kind of kickdrum and filter it just right (bandpass around like 50-200 hz? can't remember right now), you can repeat it and use it as a "bassline" and it has a pretty good effect.
Has anyone else done this before? Are there any things I should watch out for doing this? |
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Kolishin Methud
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Posted : Apr 25, 2011 19:59
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Shiranui
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Posted : Apr 25, 2011 20:30
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that's still a synth it sounds like... |
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mk47
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Posted : Apr 25, 2011 20:56
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bassline can be airy low end gluing tracks together , or can be full of many frequencies low to high and with fx and automatin etc and be a main rhythm part also i guess ? if its interesting enough .. ? coz bass = main thing for dance music
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PoM
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Posted : Apr 25, 2011 21:46
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i dunno what you mean heard only synth bassline in psy ,maybe a 808 kick bassline or a tom bassline ? both used in techno. |
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geekhorde
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Posted : Apr 26, 2011 00:02
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For a long time a processed 808 kickdrum was one of the main bass sounds used in drumnbass. It may still be so. Not sure. Haven't kept up. |
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mudpeople
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Posted : Apr 26, 2011 06:50
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Sounds like something you could recreate with just a sine wave, Wavosaur will generate sine wave audio and is free, if you dont have anything that will. Its pretty easy to use, but may take some picking thru.
Kick drums are quite often simple sine waves with multi-octave pitch bends, Ocelot used ot have a tutorial on his site, I only say 'used to' cuz i havent been on it in forever. Play around with pitch bending a sine wave and you should get a fairly passable kick noise pretty quick and easily.
I personally like synth bass sounds, especially analog synths, Ive got a bunch of samples of ESMs and TB-303s and some other Exx that I love (even tho the 303 rack is 16 bit) and try to share as much as i can, the 303s idk where they came from or license or what, probably some mod-tracking site and theyre probably pub-domain, the Exx samps' license is the text in the folder http://www.mudpeople.lsdxm.com/SAMPLES/303%20basses.zip Compared teh Alien303 to the real deal, and the Alien suffered in comparison... Mid-heavy, plasticy, and sharp, but cuts thru the mix easier than the TB, but the TB has a very 'round' sound and fuller freq range, from what i heard (using the darkpsy Alien303 preset, idk if the others are better compared). Specifically I use the 303 #23 more often than not.
On a more on-topic note Ive messed around using bass guitar vst emulations as bass and, while I never really went anywhere with it, they did have nice sound. Ive always been curious to sample my real bass guitar and try using that, but I dont have a 1/4 inch input or 1/4 - 1/8 adapter on the comp, but maybe someday....
I used to be sorta into the whole demoscene mod-tracking thing, and plinked arond in Impulse tracker, which if anyone remembers, was DOS based and used all samples as instruments, what we would do to make long synth notes was make whatever a loop and mess with the envelope so it sounded smooth. This technique allows you to use non-synthesized material and isolate and sustain specific parts of the sound, I dont know for sure but this could be useful to make alternative basses... Again I think Wavosaur would work for that in a pinch. At the least one cold trim, copy and paste the waveform, and theres probably an option to copy whatever for X time and maybe even xfade it, idk i havent relaly dug too far into wavosaur but am liking it...
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supergroover
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Posted : Apr 26, 2011 11:17
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A 808 style kick without the attack is a pretty common way to make a bass in techno minimal stuff.
Tried to look for a tutorial. But couldnt find one quickly...
soundcloud.com/supergroover |
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woodster77
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Posted : Apr 26, 2011 11:50
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triangle wave mate
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mudpeople
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Posted : Apr 26, 2011 11:58
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Am I remembering right, thinking that sine and triangle waves can be lowered in pitch farther than others? I cant remember if that was something i read, imagined, or saw in a dream... But to my tired mind it sounds logical, attenuated low freq sines and triangles ought to maintain audibility more than squares and pulses which Im pretty sure at low enough frequencies start to have dead spaces.
But I could just as likely be making it all up.... Its been that kind of night...
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PoM
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Posted : Apr 26, 2011 17:03
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have no idea man , but i think saw with the harmonics should maybe be more audible even if it can sound like shit (depends the monitors) |
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Shiranui
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Posted : Apr 26, 2011 17:12
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On 2011-04-26 06:50, mudpeople wrote:
Sounds like something you could recreate with just a sine wave |
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It would have to have a pitch envelope or else it would sound too tonal. I also want it to be a little airy |
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Remy [POF]
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Posted : Apr 26, 2011 19:20
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i often use kicks or toms..
On 2011-03-08 23:13, moki wrote:
listening only to free music is like having the free possibility to satisfy yourself with thousends of different free sexual acts. |
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