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___Shpongloid
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Posted : Dec 14, 2001 01:16:02
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I have a question for all the pros in the forum {Yuli, Bilbo, Hujaboy and others who consider themselves pros}.
I am finishing my military service very very soon and i am seriously considering to study sound engineering, now my questions are:
1. Where can i learn in Israel?
2. What exactly is learned and on what level?
3. How it costs?
4. Is there job offerings in the market? Is the salaries in this field are reasonable? Or shall i prefer seek the old dream and become basta salesman?
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___magnetrance
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Posted : Dec 14, 2001 09:57:31
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ask Limnus aka Illumination maybe he knows...
he got "toar rishon" in sound!
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___Nomad
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Posted : Dec 14, 2001 11:33:18
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try this link
www.openu.ac.il/hasifa
it's multimedia, television and cinema school of the open university
and they also teach sound but there's no degree just a graduation diploma .
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___bilbobagginz
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Posted : Dec 17, 2001 13:38:59
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i don't know about such profession as "sound engineering",
there is "architect with acoustic specialization" [it's B.Arc+ - 5 years ] and there's "electrical engineer specialaized in acoustics and/or audio processing/synthesis" [this is B.Sc - 4 years]
the person who sits in the studio and plays with mixer is officially called "sound technician". the sound technicians with managemental abilibty tell the others what to do.some technicians have electronics education, or electrical engineering degree. but this is not a prerequisite for the job.this is (note: a.f.a.i.k.) not an established academic profession, at least not in israel (still i can be wrong)
i've heard somewhere this:
"you come to the studio, and lift the speakers/racks for 1-2 years, if you're good (and everybody likes you), you stop lifting the speakers and begin setting up the microphones, and after 3-4 years, if you're good (and everybody likes you), you can enter the master room, then after a while, if you're good (and everybody likes you) you become master."
but if you want to "engineer sound" as to design synthesizers etc.... go study electronics & computers.
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___Shpongloid
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Posted : Dec 26, 2001 14:23:14
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I meant sound technician, but then you say that it will take years for me to do something, and i'll need "protection". So maybe it is better to be "electrical engineer specialaized in acoustics and/or audio processing/synthesis". If so do you know where it can be learned in Israel? |
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___yuli
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Posted : Dec 26, 2001 17:02:04
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To b a sound technitian in a pro studio is not as fun as it may seem. Most of your work at the start is moving stuff from place to place and sometimes make some stage work - Moving heavier stuff from place to place, crawling under and inside subwoofers and getting your ears thrashed... Besides, all the process is very much like Bilbo's example.
There are some schools in Tel Aviv that teach sound engineering, needless to say they are quite not cheap.. Needless to say that when you start working as a sound tech in a pro studio, you probably will get lower than a minimum wage for couple of years... and Bilbo's example again
Happy Xmas to all BTW |
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___Shpongloid
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Posted : Dec 26, 2001 17:38:04
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Basa {Bummer}.
So shall i learn Programming as everybody else? |
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___yuli
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Posted : Dec 26, 2001 22:04:52
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I think the way to do it is to learn by yourself. It's not extremely hard, all you need is to go all the way with your wish and flight time on the mixing board. |
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___Kinetichonda
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Posted : Dec 27, 2001 03:44:06
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The most serious place I can recomend for sound should probably be "Michlelet hanegev" also worthy is "Michlelet Hed" in Yahud. and there is allways Yoav Gera in TA. but truly, sound has so many branches nowdays (Radio/TV, Sound Editing, Midi and software programing, Studio mixing and Recording, Post Production) that U usualy start working somwhere and catch up on the way, none of the israeli schools guarantees any work and the field is quite tough. Also there is this place in Germany that gives you a SonMeister degree, it's a joint degree in musicology and Engeneering the tuition is 7 years and you should have high musical instrument skills in at least 2 clasical instruments (with piano being posible only as secondary) this course is Intended for recordists/mixers of clasical music who can read sheet music while recording and mixing and reacting to that.
Oh and there is that place where I studied sound, it's called Galey Zahal, they gave me the 2 year crash course on sound for Radio, sound Editing and music mixing on fully analogue vintage equipment. (we had over 20 different Neuman mics at the storeroom) that's about all I can think of. |
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