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Sound on new monitors

IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Apr 6, 2019 16:30:50
Hi there,

Yesterday i bought new monitors Adam T7V.
Till now i have done all my work on headphones and all my tracks sounds really bad, especially the bass. But when i adjust the bass on my new speakers and render the track to audio, and play it on my phone with headphones it sounds all different, it sounds muddy and distorted. It should sound good on headphones aswell, so what is going on?
Im not able to play too loud on my new monitors, because of the neighbours, so maybe im not able to hear the low end too well, could that be the problem?

Heres a sample of a bassline, it sounds ok on my monitors but really bad on my headphones.

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Posted : Apr 8, 2019 00:42

You'll need some time to break in your monitors, to get to know them.

I can't definitely state I know my bass or low end. It still comes out messy. But with monitors, the low end "is there" but not pronounced. Everything is flat, or flat-ish with a ton of modes from your room. So you shouldn't expect much "really low end" coming out of them.

So, what you can do to actually make an educated guess is reference your stuff. Compare it against some known tune you acknowledge as great, and try to match the same levels.

I grabbed your bass sample test audio,
The frequency spectrum shows me your kick has a nice hump at 66Hz - C1. The bass note seems to be A# - so you can downtune your kick a semitone to help match them. It might not solve the muddiness all together, but it's a good step in the right direction.

Next, maybe the bass is trying to occupy the same space as the kick, and maybe the opposite at the same time. The result makes it boomy. If I LP from 100Hz down, I hear boomwomboomwomboomwom and no space (except every 4 hits when the bass plays 1 octave higher). So, cut out a little space in the bass so this frequency can shine through on the kick; and that the beat seems to clear up a lot if I cut out around 90..110hz - when the kick is affecting the bass. So maybe take a little out of the kick in this side, so the bass fundamental can shine through.
But that will be hard to hear or recognise on monitors, especially at low levels.

Mids also seem a bit off, and sound a little better if I cut out a notch around 500Hz. But, this is without the mix, without any context, anything. When you start mixing in other elements, things start to change, and you might even have to cut out some space to accommodate other elements.

          Super Banana Sauce
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Apr 8, 2019 14:18
kick-bass should be (at least for a short time while monitoring) played at a higher volume. monitors behave different at low and mid/high volume, you need to go over a certain threshold, especially with new monitors. when it sounds good at high volume it sounds good at low, but the other way around is not always true (especially in the beginning of new monitors).

and more abt your bassline:

there seems to be hardly any low-end on the sample, its just mid, almost as if the bass is one octave above 1st octave. and it does not sound distorted. wondering what headphones you are using when you say it is distorted.

my advice is to work on the bass itself, in the synth, before fixing all kinds of issues. use a reference track/ k-b

check out some tutorials on youtube about psytrance basslines in serum. i dont think its a topnotch vst for bassline (certainly not my favourite) but in 5 minutes you have a pretty decent psy bassline that will be a big step up from what you have now. 
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