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go@lex
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Posted : Dec 17, 2002 15:51
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hello, i've seen that you can mastering your tracks with sound forge, do you know a tutorial or a web site who explain this?
thanks!
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SuperGlue_Vitaly
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Posted : Dec 17, 2002 23:22
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try using wavelab - there are much ore effects and analizers there for mastering |
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Tomer
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Posted : Dec 19, 2002 12:13
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there's an awosome plug in for mastering called : Izotope .
but ! u sure need to know what u r doing with this one... !
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BrainStorm
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Posted : Dec 19, 2002 19:05
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hey people
maybe im lame but.. how one can master tracks with sound forge?  )
this software is powerful wave editor, nothing else.. who can compare it to logic, pro tools or even cubase?
I'll say the truth.. 3 years ago i mastered my tracks with sound forge too, but then i made music in fruity loops which got no mastering abilities at all and so i used sound forge to process my tracks a bit.. but the only thing i can say:
dont use it for mastering, it corrupts sound date.. it changes the sound. Maybe your ear wont recognize the difference but i can hear it after Reason.
you may fight me and say its not truth.. ok, my deal was to say this.. keep thinking what you wish to 
If you need to master sound really - try mastering software, not wave editors.. if its all about VSTI plugins - i guess cubase might have some sence
if its about more exciting TDM plugins - pro tools
and try emagic's logic too.. nice proggie
Best wishes with mastering
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SuperGlue_Vitaly
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Posted : Dec 19, 2002 23:08
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fruity loops which got no mastering abilities at all - are you really so sure???
you are talking about vsti to use in cubase
you cant use it in fruity??? |
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SuperGlue_Vitaly
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Posted : Dec 19, 2002 23:08
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btw tomer how are you?
havent seen you for much time , how is going on?
vitaly |
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BrainStorm
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Posted : Dec 20, 2002 01:24
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Vitaly:
man i released a cd which was all done in fruity loops...
look, i know it supports vsti's and stuff
but vsti isnt the only thing u need for mastering, u know... like.. i cant imagine really how one can master stuff in fruity.. fruity is a really great sequencer though
its not professional program.. u surely may master with it as well, but i doubt you may reach very nice quality then
ok.. anybody got his own thoughts
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O.zen
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Posted : Dec 20, 2002 02:28
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mastering ,the finel part of your work the 2 trk finelaze how your track is going from you to others ears,well all the mastering work is about quelty is define your track from others first of all when you do a masterwork on your soft. or not you need the perfect room,a room that was design for mastering a good mains monitors not a near field monitors , mastering gives the track your taste of sound,you have to take considering that your track will be playing in others monitors ,sometimes not very quelty monitors so yo have to pass your track into a shitbox(low quelty monitors)and ear how your track is doing there.the perfect referance for listening after mastering is on a p.a. system the spilt of the frequnces there are preaty good chacking your master track.
my point anyway you can do the mastring on your soft. but take also all the other parameters that gives your mastring a good quelty.(notice that a lot of very good artist have a wonderful writing and mix but the mastering is sucks and you can ear it at parties on a p.a-and it happend almost only in trance music ,but that is a all other story)
think quelty it does 90% of the job.
bom..
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Yuli
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Posted : Dec 20, 2002 03:41
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Brainstorm - protools, logic and cubase are sequencers and thus are made to run and control clocked studio and give u an opportunity to work synchronized on many channels at once and apply effects and anything else that u might find useful to them and so creating the final mix.
But no way these programs desined to make mastering!!! Knowing that most of the mastering studios in Israel use pro-tools for mastering I will reveal to u, that pro-tools wasn't designed to do that and it is usually done here like this because to buy 'Sadie' ( for example ) which is one of the professional software types for mastering is not very cheap.
Back to the question - it is besser ( i believe so ) to attend the mastering on Wavelab, since it makes possible to run many fx at once for which soundforge is not as good as it's steinberg rival.
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Mike A
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Posted : Dec 20, 2002 13:07
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I think he meant VST effects (and DX), and not VSTi.
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SuperGlue_Vitaly
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Posted : Dec 20, 2002 14:02
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every one has his own secrets |
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BrainStorm
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Posted : Dec 20, 2002 14:42
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hey
i didnt say its good to master tracks in fruity..
i just replied to vitaly who told that fruity got mastering abilities, which im not fully agree with
now about pro tools - i dont care what most of israeli studios use
but if you pass through digidesign homepage (which is www.digidesign.com) - you will see that
Pro Tools was created especially for mastering and not only for sequencing.. it comes bundle with hardware, mixers and stuff..
I dunno about wavelab
and i dont use ANY vsti/vsti whatever for mastering. By my opinion - if you decided to master your tracks on your computer, without having any hardware and without paying money to studio - for me the best way isnt using vst plugins, for me Reason 2.0 makes its work pretty good, you just need to know things about this program, otherwise you'll be dissapointed and say it produces low quality sound, which isnt truth.
again as i said - fruity loops isnt the program for mastering, although it does supports vst.
and another secret: i got no monitors and never used that ones :*)
vitaly is correct - "every one has his own secrets" and everyone does his music as he wants too
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SuperGlue_Vitaly
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Posted : Dec 21, 2002 02:43
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what i said is not that fl is good for mastering
mastering is all about your ear and experience and at the high levels (prodigy,chemical brothers) sound knowledge at a very high level
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Yuli
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Posted : Dec 21, 2002 03:12
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Brainstorm, I agree with u about the things that are written on the digidesign page.. But many things are written in many places.. The fact is that protools is first thing a sequencer.. so it can perform mastering and has it's tools for mastering - so is cubase and logic
The difference between these and a professional mastering software / hardware that the pro thing is designed for doing that only. That is the reason that most of the time ( unless the technitian that runs the studio is real bad ) the final product made on pro mastering machine will be much better than on protools / cubase / logic
I did mastering on protools and in Village in Herzlia on pro mastering machine ( controlled by the 'Sadie' software ) and the differences are huge.
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