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Uedi
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Oct 4, 2009 17:45
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There are artists with a awsome sound quality.
Crystal clear sound.. for example Painkiller.
http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/nut/nut1cd016.html
He has a big definition on kick and bass.
Is this a result of the artists skills + good studio gear???
Or is it mastering "magic dust" and improvement???
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-=Mandari=-
Mandari
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Posted : Oct 4, 2009 18:30
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On 2009-10-02 16:17, *eLliSDee* wrote:
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Mandari,
Where did u find the "article about this stuff with clearly logic supposed to have the best summing at the end."?
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sorry i cant remember. usually i store all stuff like that in my browser, but since i had at least 3 times hd crash only THIS year, i dont have anything left.
im not sure if it was a link from the post i meant or if i just picked it up somewhere.
anyway, dont mind actually, im pretty satisfied with ableton 
 FUCK GENRES, LOVE MUSIC!!!!
http://soundcloud.com/mandarimedia
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Co-codamol
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Posted : Nov 22, 2009 04:01
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The first 5 posts had me in stitches
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle
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Posted : Nov 22, 2009 11:19
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On 2009-10-04 17:45, Uedi wrote:
There are artists with a awsome sound quality.
Crystal clear sound.. for example Painkiller.
http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/nut/nut1cd016.html
He has a big definition on kick and bass.
Is this a result of the artists skills + good studio gear???
Or is it mastering "magic dust" and improvement???
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artist skill + good gear + good mastering
one of them is lower quality will produce lower quality sound in the end..
www.sattelbattle.com
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Inner Demon
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Posted : Nov 22, 2009 19:12
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On 2009-10-02 12:41, gutter wrote:
I think the main difference between audio programs is the summing on the master channel output.
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No no and no.
The following is cut/pasted from a thread at KVR (discussing Live 6 and Cubase 4):
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I know its a leap of faith, but just trust me, there is absolutely categorically no difference in the summing engines of these 2 hosts, or any other hosts. a summing engine is just that, summing numbers. 2 + 2 = 4 whether you do it in your house, outside, or on the moon!! The same applies with hosts, its all the same. What will make a difference will be the various plugins that you might use, as these will inevitably colour the signal in different ways. However, if we are purely talking about the summing engines, its all the same.
You are not the first (by a long way) to ask this question about certain hosts. its been discussed, debated, argued and shouted to death around here and elsewhere since the dawn of audio software, and the sooner you realise that any summing engine "differences" are a myth, the better off you will be in the long run. this is very simple mathematical fact, and there is nothing to be debated so do yourself a favour and don't be dragged into any timewasting debates about it.
I say all this not to patronise you, but to help with something that is a common misconception and something that you are better off not wasting a single second longer on
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Now if you think you hear differences while playing stuff in the sequencer, then its the audio engine at work, not the summing engine.
Still, all the major sequencers are so good today that if you think you can add a few sounds here and there and hear quality differences, I'd say you're imagining things mate 
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Tomos
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Posted : Nov 23, 2009 01:24
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My 2p :
Some of my favourite artists have gone to the limit - used everything in the studio that was available to them, pushed the boundaries of that technology to breaking point, repaired it with duct tape and then used that broken sound in their recordings . They produced something they felt required that much effort - and it turned out good enough for me to want to listen again and again and enjoy. (Eg Brian Eno, David Bryne, The Beatles, Bjork.. too many talented people to mention)
On the other hand, some of my favourite recordings are by artists that have picked up a $20 microphone, sat in a shed, stomped on a box and produced a classic. (Bon Iver, Sea Sick Steve, RL Burnside..)
I don't give a shit what you use and neither should you. Sound quality is about 10% of what makes a song a song. These days, in the modern, post analogue, mature digital era of recording - the argument over which summing engine is ever-so-slightly better is so irrelevant it is laughable.
A clear, punchy and well mixed song can be achieved with practice, knowledge, skills, practice, well chosen plugins and effects, practice and practice.
Workflow and comfort in your environment will give you the sound you want, not a different export button. |
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