Oni Katsu
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Posted : May 16, 2012 19:17
Updated! So i visited the studio, the bass system seems really odd, the bass is very low compared to the other elements when i mix, so naturally i try to fix it. When i check on earplugs they overload with the sub-sinewave osc.
But i think i found the right balance and combination of Db + Sub now?
Anyone feeling like checking the mix? The bass is maybe a tiny tad too loud.. not sure yet
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I said I like it dirty, not muddy.
makus
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Posted : May 16, 2012 23:20
it is much better now indeed but bass is hell of a lot loud
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Posted : May 18, 2012 17:15
good, there is no presets, just a unison lead sounds very vanguard alike.
anyways i dunno ho many db. need to listen in the project. sorry. maybe 3? there is some sub bassy shit happening also. i dunno where from does it come, maybe bass too.
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Oni Katsu
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Posted : May 18, 2012 20:27
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On 2012-05-18 17:15, makus wrote:
good, there is no presets, just a unison lead sounds very vanguard alike.
anyways i dunno ho many db. need to listen in the project. sorry. maybe 3? there is some sub bassy shit happening also. i dunno where from does it come, maybe bass too.
The tail of the kick might interfere with the high notes of my fullon bass?... that might be it?
I also know i cut the frequency at 20 on the kick.
As my bass have no equalizer on, i'm having problems seeing there be a lot of sub-shit in there, with such high cutoff and sustain, but there could be something going on there... i'll lower the very low-end on it and see... i'm glad you're being so patient with me (:
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Posted : May 19, 2012 04:36
I will second what makus said.
I enjoyed your track, It's not what I like to listen, I don't like the bass variating notes a too much, but other than that nice work!
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Posted : May 19, 2012 11:48
The stabby lead that starts @ 1:25, i think you didn't hi pass it and it has low freqs that interfere with kick and bass.
The part @ 1:53 you have some arp lead going there but compare it to your kick and especially bass volume and analyze the balance. I think you agree that the lead is too quiet.
Then this gated voice sample @ 2:13 - it is in the background. It feels like you are afraid to show your leads and fx and trying to hide them somewhere behind. At this point there is only clap is playing, open high hat is totally out of the mix. I don't hear it at all, though I know it is there @ this point it should rock already, create groove with kick and clap.
Then this distorted bass - man, too loud, make it -4 dB maybe, cause it can damage ears in a club.
In the culmination the open hat is not audible also. The last lead might be brighter to cut thru the mix better. I would continue the culmination till 6:10, with the same arp lead but would add another melody on top, that would go an octave or two higher. Only after that I would start that part that you have at 5:45. Also I think the culmination is very short! Sorry for bringing own track as an example, I know it is not very good production, but I just cant think of another example right now. It has pretty similar structure. After the last big break I have the culmination with some arp lead playing, but then the culmination develops even more with a higher melody on top. Check around 5:20
Other than that I have an impression that you work too loud. you can listen to the music loud if you like, but working is not the same as recreation. Mix quiet and in mono Train your ears to catch small details, analyze mix non stop, compare levels of the instruments in the mix to each other all the time. Make you kick -10 and don't touch its fader any more - adjust other levels to it. You can't have closed hihat play louder than open hat - that's not what happens in reality when a drummer plays etc..
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Posted : May 20, 2012 00:45
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On 2012-05-19 11:48, makus wrote:
The stabby lead that starts @ 1:25, i think you didn't hi pass it and it has low freqs that interfere with kick and bass.
The part @ 1:53 you have some arp lead going there but compare it to your kick and especially bass volume and analyze the balance. I think you agree that the lead is too quiet.
Then this gated voice sample @ 2:13 - it is in the background. It feels like you are afraid to show your leads and fx and trying to hide them somewhere behind. At this point there is only clap is playing, open high hat is totally out of the mix. I don't hear it at all, though I know it is there @ this point it should rock already, create groove with kick and clap.
Then this distorted bass - man, too loud, make it -4 dB maybe, cause it can damage ears in a club.
In the culmination the open hat is not audible also. The last lead might be brighter to cut thru the mix better. I would continue the culmination till 6:10, with the same arp lead but would add another melody on top, that would go an octave or two higher. Only after that I would start that part that you have at 5:45. Also I think the culmination is very short! Sorry for bringing own track as an example, I know it is not very good production, but I just cant think of another example right now. It has pretty similar structure. After the last big break I have the culmination with some arp lead playing, but then the culmination develops even more with a higher melody on top. Check around 5:20
Other than that I have an impression that you work too loud. you can listen to the music loud if you like, but working is not the same as recreation. Mix quiet and in mono Train your ears to catch small details, analyze mix non stop, compare levels of the instruments in the mix to each other all the time. Make you kick -10 and don't touch its fader any more - adjust other levels to it. You can't have closed hihat play louder than open hat - that's not what happens in reality when a drummer plays etc..
Hope that helps!
Good luck mixing
I'm really appreaciating all the work you put into bringing feedback to this track! Thank you so much!
So i have fixed the percussion, tweaked the KB quite a lot. The bass is a little weird i think, it's like.. TOO OPEN, yet, not really anyway.
Most of the leads are increased, and i layered the "Climax" at 2:20 with a little thinner and more high-pitched lead. Re-modulated that psychedelic lead afterward...
Any tips for filtering the 303? It sucks dick, and i'm so goddamn tired of it.
Also, you were pretty damn right about the levels i work in, my earplugs have a really crappy low-end... But the mids and up, have rather ok precision. They clearly do have boosted 5kHz's for some really lame reason. So my sounds tend to lack those if i mix at high volume. Eh... bad habit for mixing loud...
Also don't say your track is not well mixed, its fabulous! Crunchy and clean, different from my commercial sound ofc, but it's different and very ejoyable. I sort of see your point It's a good example!
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