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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 26, 2009 01:05:51
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Hello
I find this plug in is a very warm and transparent one.As far as I read it is more for mastering ,I did so when premaster my experiments as a smooth adder only.
They sound anyways shit but I keep exploring hehe
My question iz :
Is it ok for the signal when using it whlie the mix.´? Or cause of later comp - premastering.
I have a symphonic channel where I work on it.I have sidechain ,then eq,than inflator .All is routed to a mono group which has only compressor and a smooth limiter.
I wanna make my channel a bit louder but dont want to fuck up again.A smooth progression would be nice.
I am sure the signal is clean,I think of wheter take an inflator or maybe a smooth compressor instead of inflator - on the symphonic channel.
Is there any advice for me outthere?
Happy weekend / be carefull with your ears .
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Suloo
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Posted : Sep 26, 2009 01:29
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hm, i use it slyghtly on kick/bass group and on master channel a little more..then for some single sounds somethimes if i wanna let them sty out a little or smth..dont thing it would be bad for mastering in the end..but im not that experienced in mastering anyway..
i believe as long as it does just raise the rms level of the signal and does not effect the dynamics its ok..and thats what it does , with a little nice warmth 
the user manual claims it even ok for mixing purpose..
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 26, 2009 01:51
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thank you mate !
I have nothing on master and when I switch off limiter from group it stays anyways in green area so I go for it.Have 6 beats all acrossed sidechained ,snares and 3 drum and bass beats like with only one symphonic sample so far.And wobble bass.
Cheers
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aciduss
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Posted : Sep 26, 2009 01:55
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Excuse me Zork sir, how much is slightly? I just casually inserted it in my bassline bus yesterday and was wondering exactly about this issue. It really helps the sound to use it but i wan't to know how much so i dont go wrong. |
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Suloo
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Posted : Sep 26, 2009 03:11
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Well,i cannot tell you actualy..depends on your signal at all..just use your ears ,and as long as it does not distort too much its ok i think..
Turn of these two buttons inthe middle and fiddle around,just two faders ,so not too difficult,or please read the manual if u r not sure what happens there..the left one is the amount of fx and the mid right one is the curve(wich is the tasty thing up to you)
good luck
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aciduss
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Posted : Sep 26, 2009 08:01
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thanks  |
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aciduss
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 01:55
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I have been working on this and i am getting the hang out of it but there is only one thing that i don't exactly know...
Say i have both my kick n bass around -11 db i route them to a single channel in order to 'inflate' them then i have this nice limited punchy signal. But... i don't know how loud it should be... should i stick to my initial 11db mark or is it ok to get loud, i mean like mastering limited signal -.3db or something near master clip (but without actually clipping it).
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Suloo
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 02:02
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do you know the difference between rms level and peak level?
just use it as loud as you want..you will actualy do it automatically right since you maybe wont inflate all the sounds and in order to have a proper mix off all levels in the end you will adjust it anyway..
-5 to - 3db peak level, wich is usually shown in the standart view of sequencers..is ok for mastering
and the rms level overall is another thing..
grab something like ozone for example and check the rms level on your favourite tracks or so, to get a feeling..hope that helps..
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aciduss
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Posted : Oct 1, 2009 17:52
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Hi, actually i didn't know the difference but i have been reading a lot and now it seems a little less confusing but still don't get the whole idea behind the RMS level.
Could anyone explain this in a practical way? I mean i do understand what RMS means but i wouldn't know what to take into account when mixing / mastering a track.
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Suloo
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Posted : Oct 1, 2009 18:31
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ok, i will try to explain..please correct me guys if its wrong..
rms=root mean square is the actual loudness of your signal according to fletcher munson curve, so like how the sound volume really is interpreted by your ear..
its all about this loudness war etc..most tracks are around -10 to -15 db rms wich is ok in the end..while mixing you dont need to care imo..if your track is not loud enough the mastering engineer will sort that out with no problem..
its just like how u prefer to work imo..with a louder/punchier kick bass or with less loudness..
i like the loud way so i like to use inflator on kick/bass group f.e...
i even thing when you process it this way the mastering eng. dont has to take care for bass range anymore ( if all is perfect) , so he can concentrate more on mid and high end..
hope that helps..
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aciduss
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Posted : Oct 1, 2009 19:54
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Yes bro, thanks a lot i kinda get the idea. |
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