Something usefull for all future producers I quoted..!!
Bosque Sub Zinho
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Posted : Aug 23, 2010 19:12
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On 2010-08-23 18:26, disco hooligans wrote:
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On 2010-08-23 15:10, Bosque Sub Zinho wrote:
for the filtered break and drug related samples I said nothing..!! xD unchanging kick ok when it flows and your ears are busy with the other sound that flows, single note bassline I also use but when I know they must be there and trance gates also good thing..
IMO what rule did u broke..?!
I'm doing the following of the DO NOT tings you posted...like specifically these ones...
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On 2010-08-23 02:24:43, Bosque Sub Zinho wrote:
Introducing the new list of Ten DO NOT Rules of Psy-Trance Production. ...
1. Anyone using samples from Terrence McKenna, Jim Morrison, or Hunter Thompson in any track will be shot and killed immediately...
2. Drop that same stupid unchanging 4/4 kick w/rolling bass line...
3. No more samples about acid/L.S.D. There's a lot of ****ing drugs out there...
5. Learn the idea of "dynamics" in music. The ambient intro, straight full-on tracks with one or maybe two breakdowns, then ambient fadeout formula is old, dead, and crumbled to dust...
6. Stop using filters for breakdowns. Great, so your track just keeps repeating itself every four bars, and then you turn up a band-pass filter and squeeze it down until you stop the music. Wow. So very original... not...
8. Just forget the "trance gating" or at least use it on something other than analog synth melody lines and vocals. Simon Posford & Co. have done it to death...
Ok.. Your'e the Rulebraker.. Keep it rocking, I love your sound.. 3;DD
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Posted : Aug 23, 2010 19:18
Why is a one note bassline such a failure?
Listen to zen mechanics or protonica... almost every track is a one note bassline..
Bosque Sub Zinho
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Posted : Aug 23, 2010 19:43
No one said it's failure.. But when u have a track that goes 6-7-8 minutes in one note, IMO for me it begins to lame on third minute.. Where's the energy there..??
I really don't like Zen Mechanics or Protonica or Ace Ventura etc..
IMO Azax Syndrom, Bliss, Samy Cpu, Abomination, Ananda Shake, Nature Disaster, Seroxat, X Team, Iron Madness, Phanatic, Painkiller etc..
All pure energy and makes my day extra powerfull and not boring.. But that's not important.. )
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Posted : Aug 23, 2010 21:14
yes, but we are not talking about the house music, where groove is everything and is most important.
Psy trance should be intelligent music and bassline is only a blank canvas for the other elements in a track.
For me a gallop beat (kick and bass) is something that makes me to move and I enjoy that repeateble pattern.
What would you say about the progressive scene then?
Albums like lull from Antix or Scienza nuova from Sun Control Species? all songs have one note bassline and all songs are just awsome
Bosque Sub Zinho
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Posted : Aug 23, 2010 21:24
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On 2010-08-23 21:14, danfoss wrote:
yes, but we are not talking about the house music, where groove is everything and is most important.
Psy trance should be intelligent music and bassline is only a blank canvas for the other elements in a track.
For me a gallop beat (kick and bass) is something that makes me to move and I enjoy that repeateble pattern.
What would you say about the progressive scene then?
Albums like lull from Antix or Scienza nuova from Sun Control Species? all songs have one note bassline and all songs are just awsome
I don't like the progressive scene.. But when u enjoy these sound's, ok, I respect your presence..!!
We are not all the same human beeing, someone likes fast, someone slow, someone powerfull, someone minimal etc.. ;DD
Cheers Isra-Soldier..
Bosque Sub Zinho
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Posted : Aug 23, 2010 21:31
And I forgot.. You said:
"Psy trance should be intelligent music and bassline is only a blank canvas for the other elements in a track."
Absolultly false..!!!! Here's a prove.. Watch out the ppl reaction on 0:38.. )
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Posted : Aug 23, 2010 22:57
Anyone else think calling psytrance "intelligent" or any other 4 to the floor dance music intelligent is a bit pointless? What's so intelligent about repetitive beats?
http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound www.chilluminati.org - Midwest based psytrance group
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Bosque Sub Zinho
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Posted : Aug 24, 2010 02:08
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On 2010-08-24 00:14, orgytime wrote:
lol stupit topic again, leads to stupid discussion again.
have you then anyhing stupid to say or u just laming around..?!
Bosque Sub Zinho
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Posted : Aug 24, 2010 02:16
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On 2010-08-23 22:57, Ascension wrote:
Anyone else think calling psytrance "intelligent" or any other 4 to the floor dance music intelligent is a bit pointless? What's so intelligent about repetitive beats?
for many here the sound quality..!! xDD
and psytrance is a state of art..!! ;DD
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Posted : Aug 24, 2010 02:56
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On 2010-08-23 22:57, Ascension wrote:
Anyone else think calling psytrance "intelligent" or any other 4 to the floor dance music intelligent is a bit pointless? What's so intelligent about repetitive beats?
Ok, so what do you find in psytrance?
Only something to shake your ass off?
Intelligent for me means that it has something deeper in it than that ass shaking groove..
Jaadoo
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Posted : Aug 24, 2010 03:55
The genres have structures which will be followed till they SLOWLY evolve to other genres or subgenres.
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Posted : Aug 24, 2010 13:41
yes man if you don t like it just make it ! we are in the producer section afterall. maybe you will bring something new and have lot of copycats and we will call it a new style of psytrance hehe
btw you forgot one rule lol :there is not only sawtooth oscillators in a synth stop using these fucking detuned saw all the time it s starting to get cheesy
Bosque Sub Zinho
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Posted : Aug 24, 2010 13:59
Hehe Isra-brothers.. I wrote on another post that I thought for someone should it be usefull, I see I'm wrong..
Punish me my friends..!! xDD
Fuck the rules, let's make some vibes..!! ;DD
Punish remembers me of this.. But it's not Hypnotize, Ziv relased album with wrong titles.. xD
