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Something Funny plz help (Cubase SX problem)

Mike A
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Posted : Jun 28, 2004 02:37
Probably phase stuff from the samples..
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 28, 2004 15:44
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On 2004-06-26 17:55, tHuJoN wrote:
I don't have any delay on the Hihats ...
it's more that 2 hh are on each other sometimes ... but if i take them out the groove don't sounds so nice anymore ...

hugs




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Boobytrip
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Posted : Jun 28, 2004 16:38
I can think of 2 causes for the problem:

1) you use a send on the hihat, and the signal that's coming back from the send-effect is offset slightly in time, probably due to poor latency compensation (if you use SX 2 you shouldn't have this problem, but i have had it even with SX 2). Solution: use a prefader send to the effect, and make a mixdown of the effect solo-ed, then import the mixdown into an audiotrack, and fiddle with the latency-control in the project-window to get it aligned just right.

2) You use a send-effect in SX 2 that isn't 100% compatible with the new VST host interface of SX 2. I have had this problem with NI's Battery and Kontakt. Solution: turn on the "old host behaviour" button in the "plugin-setup" window.

Hope it helped,
Daan
tHuJoN
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Posted : Jun 28, 2004 22:40
For what i should use sampler ?? u can do like everything with direct fx in the Cubase arrangement with Audio Samples ... I used Samplers before ...but i go better with Audiofiles ...

And i think it's a problem with the frequencies ...because 2 Hihats are on each other ... so the one "eat" some frequencies of the other on ...

Will try to fix it ...

thanxx to all...

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Boobytrip
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Posted : Jun 29, 2004 10:39
I use a (soft-)sampler so i can use samplemaps with multiple velocity layers for each sound, to be able to shape the evelopes of the sounds, to skip through different samples to find the one that fits best with the track, to use all sorts of sample- modulation etc. etc. But i guess it's just what you're used to

Cause 1 that i suggested in my post is about the problem with the frequencies you describe: you may get the same sound doubled because it is returned through an effects-loop. If this sound is slightly offset in time (i.e. it's not EXACTLY lined up with the original sound), frequencies in the 2 sounds (original and returned) will cancel each other out and you get a phasing effect.

Good luck and may the groove be with you.
jaramogi
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Posted : Jul 2, 2004 14:23
EQ, EQ, EQ
Tiken Chika


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Posted : Jul 2, 2004 14:42
tHuJoN you are suffering from combfilter try to delay
one chanell form the other
jaramogi
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Posted : Jul 2, 2004 14:48
oh, one thing i forgot - try different pan settings - that also can help you
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jul 2, 2004 21:07
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On 2004-06-28 22:40, tHuJoN wrote:
And i think it's a problem with the frequencies ...because 2 Hihats are on each other ... so the one "eat" some frequencies of the other on ...



I still think this is the problem... sounds like you have 2 identical sounds on top of each other, and the inaccuracies of whatever hardware or software is playing them means that they are not perfectly aligned, causing comb-filtering. Try taking one of them out, and making the other one louder to compensate.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : Jul 4, 2004 04:37
did u turn off the "flange" effect on your ears? if yes than i agree with OOOD !
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