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some ideas to spice up leads
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Magus
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Posted : Aug 20, 2009 21:23
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On 2009-08-17 21:10:30, sideFXed wrote:
hey there, just wanted to contribute some ideas concerning that wall of sound type of stuff I'm so fascinated in electronic music all these years.
I'm sure you guys got some good replies that will help me and others to widen our knowledge.
long intro, to the point... what I like to do nowadays for big reverb is a sidechain compressor that cancels out the reverb while the actual note plays. as soon the sound blends out, the reverb kicks in.
arrangement:
synth > send track with reverb 100% wet, send track compressed to add gain.
sidechain:
synth triggers sidechain - short notes work best, but be sure to try long notes too
sidechain compressing on "send reverb", pretty low threshold, longish attack.
to counter a very loud reverby tail at the end of a sequence, I use a gate that allows midi triggering. just use the gate to let the sound of the reverb go through for the duration of the note. draw the note (midi trigger) for the whole sequence and stop it with some release on the gate-adsr.
For straight 4/4 stuff, a sidechain comp on top of the described reverb sounds nice too. Lots of different effects come in handy, like flangers with synced timings. the list is huge.
Now, anyone else got some "secrets" that are fairly comparable?
In no way I want to call this new or self-invented. Got this stone rolling from youtube myself, I just tried to improve it for my way of working. Phew looong post, I hope you don't mind.
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I dont quite get how to do this. I have a synth track, adding a reverb set to 100% wet. Then i duplicate the track. I put a compressor on the first synth track(not the duplicate). Put the compressor to take sidechain signal from the duplicate track. This seems wrong. I dont get how to sidechain the reverb only. My synth track has some other effects on it already though  |
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Becktrank
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Posted : Aug 20, 2009 21:57
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from what i understand, when the synth is triggered, it put down the reverb send knob....
so, all you you have to do ( i think maybe this is only good if you are using short notes) is to set the synth volume to trigger the reverb send all way down
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soulfood
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Posted : Aug 21, 2009 03:36
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For fat fat fat leads....
1.Program yourself a lead.
2.Open another instance of the same synth with the same patch and then copy over the midi data so you have 2 synths playing exactly the same thing, then pan one left and one right.
3.Then alter every parameter on one instance very slightly (or go crazy with it if you want, but that's another sound entirely rather than just improving the one we already have.) So just nudge envelopes and LFO amounts just so everything is slightly different but essentially the same.
4.Nudge the one on the right back a few milliseconds.
What this does is the same as double tracking a guitar. You can just delay the right channel with the same patch for the typical stereo wideness, but I think with these extra tweakings it all sounds so much better. |
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Elad
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Posted : Aug 21, 2009 14:09
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Inreal
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Posted : Aug 22, 2009 11:00
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To create more lively melodies, try connecting a lowpass filter directly to note/tone height; on lower notes keep the filter relatively closed, on higher notes open up the filter to add more brightness.
Another thing I like to do is sampling one note of my lead, then opening this sample in a sampler (or multiple samplers). Track the sample along a couple octaves and add different kind of effects to each seperate sampler. You can now play the main midi track on the original synth, but switch notes out with the sampled/effected leads for some crazy stuff. |
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sendtoglennc
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Posted : Aug 22, 2009 12:56
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On 2009-08-17 21:10:30, sideFXed wrote:
hey there, just wanted to contribute some ideas concerning that wall of sound type of stuff I'm so fascinated in electronic music all these years.
I'm sure you guys got some good replies that will help me and others to widen our knowledge.
long intro, to the point... what I like to do nowadays for big reverb is a sidechain compressor that cancels out the reverb while the actual note plays. as soon the sound blends out, the reverb kicks in.
arrangement:
synth > send track with reverb 100% wet, send track compressed to add gain.
sidechain:
synth triggers sidechain - short notes work best, but be sure to try long notes too
sidechain compressing on "send reverb", pretty low threshold, longish attack.
to counter a very loud reverby tail at the end of a sequence, I use a gate that allows midi triggering. just use the gate to let the sound of the reverb go through for the duration of the note. draw the note (midi trigger) for the whole sequence and stop it with some release on the gate-adsr.
For straight 4/4 stuff, a sidechain comp on top of the described reverb sounds nice too. Lots of different effects come in handy, like flangers with synced timings. the list is huge.
Now, anyone else got some "secrets" that are fairly comparable?
In no way I want to call this new or self-invented. Got this stone rolling from youtube myself, I just tried to improve it for my way of working. Phew looong post, I hope you don't mind.
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Can u put up the link to the youtubevideo please=)
Wow interesting stuff guys keep em coming=)
Peace! |
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