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Some help with EQ and making Sounds STAND OUT...Clarity!
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charles7
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Posted : Aug 13, 2008 17:35:56
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I need some help with what to do in my track. I am fairly happy with the track, and kick/Bass. when the kick bass is on its own it is clear, then when my leads/synths come in the bass gets shadowed & quiet and instead of sounding K_bb, it sounds like K_B_ and not too good. I need a way to turn my leads/synths down so they dont interfere with the bass but not so they are too quiet. I have tried HiPass equing them & theyu then sound too quiet. I've tried turning the bass up but then it becomes distorted. I've tried some equing but that still just makes the leads too quiet or hidden to keep the track going.
I need to make them both stay loud yet make room for eachother so you can hear the K_bb clearly through the Leads & Synths.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as if i can solve this i have finished the track.
Here is an example of Kick&Bass berfore leads come in
http://rapidshare.com/files/137039769/without.mp3.html
heres an example of when the leads do come in and the bass becomes unclear
http://rapidshare.com/files/137039659/with.mp3.html
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Medea
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Posted : Aug 13, 2008 17:53
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Can't listen to the samples right now, but usually in such cases you need to cut some mid frequencies from the leads, one frequency for the "click" of the kick (~1500 - 2500 Hz) and another for the low-mid area of the bass (~200-300 Hz). You can boost the same frequencies at your bass and kick, so the leads and kick+bass wouldn't fight for them.
However, that's just theory, i haven't listened to your samples =)
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Deranger
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Posted : Aug 13, 2008 19:05
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Dude,it's obvious when you layer leads/percussion/pads with your bassline it will sound less clicky and more muddy.
you need to eq the bassline carefully+compression to make it stable in the mix.you can add distortion too if you want.second you need to cut freq from leads/pads i suggest 250-350 hz depends on what you want to achieve.
don't panic if it still not clicky when layered with other sounds,it'll never sound the same when it's alone or with other sounds. |
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Kaz
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Posted : Aug 14, 2008 04:16
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It really depends on how you intend to build your track - there is a clash in the higher frequencies of the bassline and some of the other elements. Now, if you're going for a by-the-books dancefloor track, then yes, clear up the spots using EQs on other elements (as gentle as possible to get the parts of the kick and bass clearer - specifically in the mids area - with one or two high-q band EQs or just notches, and another band on the "snap" of the kick). You could go for the other solutions - just giving up on the higher part of the bassline (EQ it out) and letting the groove be decided by the melodic elements (done in Suomi a lot). Of course, a bit of sharp sidechaining should do the trick, but if you're looking to make it a high volume mix, it'd be best to avoid that.
In short - EQing depends a lot on the end result you want to achieve.
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Upavas
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Posted : Aug 15, 2008 20:34
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Aug 19, 2008 18:04
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Charles, what kind of speakers are you mixing on?
From your description I expected much bigger problems in your mix but from the samples it sounds like your kick and bass stay audible and prominent with or without the leads.
The leads step on the bass a little bit, but only the highest frequencies (sounds like 500hz and up) - the majority of the bass energy is under the 500Hz range and so even with the leads playing the bass is still audible and powerful.
However here are some tricks to try:
1) put a good distortion (quadrafuzz is popular) on the bass and then put an EQ after this. Notch around 300Hz with a moderate Q and feel around in there. This should boost your harmonics in the upper range of audible bass - use the notch EQ to control how much of the quadrafuzz gets through.
2)Create a group with a HPF of around 400Hz. Send all your leads to this group to be absolutely sure no freqs below 400Hz are getting through. With everything playing, adjust the frequency setting of this HPF until all the leads sit well with the bass. I wouldn't recommend this though because your mix sounds good as it is.
That's about all I can recommend because really, it sounds good!
*shrug*
-Fuzz
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orgytime
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Posted : Aug 20, 2008 09:23
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On 2008-08-15 20:34, Upavas wrote:
definitely Medea's answer... cut some lead frequencies around 2000hz
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yeah, this helped me alot, now im using it for the most leads and it works well! test it
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charles7
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Posted : Aug 24, 2008 17:39
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thanks for the tips guys! Muchly appreciated, im using headphones at the moment which, i know, is bad but i have to make do with them until i get speakers. Well I have now finished the tune, perhaps you guys could give it a listen & let me know what you think of the final mix?
www.myspace.com/steamingtoe
Its the track called Mocha
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Deranger
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Posted : Aug 25, 2008 05:47
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one frequency for the "click" of the kick (~1500 - 2500 Hz) and another for the low-mid area of the bass (~200-300 Hz). You can boost the same frequencies at your bass and kick, so the leads and kick+bass wouldn't fight for them.
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i'm not sure that boosting the 200-300 area of the bass is a good idea,it'll make it muddy,usually i cut freq there to avoid that.
i agree with the rest.good tips thx |
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keyop
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Posted : Aug 31, 2008 12:17
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Hey Charles7
I like your sound. You got something going there..
Could you tell me what bass you used on Mocha please ? |
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charles7
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Posted : Aug 31, 2008 12:31
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Thanks dude! I used the good old Vb1 with quadrafuzz & EQing of course.
glad you like it, add me on myspace ; ) |
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keyop
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Posted : Aug 31, 2008 13:17
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Blast! i'm on logic..
Thanks anyway. |
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charles7
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Posted : Sep 3, 2008 12:49
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Logic, youre lucky! You can get nice basslines out of ESm on Logic some of the best bass iv heard comes from that. Get a good sound from it, then bounce & put it into a sampler. Then tweak, add distortion & you will get the sound youre after with some playing around im sure : ) |
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