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ocelot
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Posted : Jun 23, 2009 23:21:04
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as music generally gets heavier and higher impact across the genres of psytrance (agree or no? i think more and more percussion and kick impact in the mix- more slamming breaks and jarring stops etc..)
basically- with this kind of thinking, the most slamming aggressive sound wins everytime, what is the balance between music and skeletal impact that makes a dancefloor experience pleasant and enjoyable? |
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goaren
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Posted : Jun 23, 2009 23:29
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depends on your state of mind at a specific time at a party 
there is no "formula" nor balance (imo) needed in order to enjoy a track... sometimes you want it to flow peacefully and carry you gently through the experience (for me - afternoon times at a party with proggy tunes), sometimes you want a melody that will make you cry in joy (usually sunrise for me - but it can be anytime at a party ), and sometimes you want the bass to pound hard and break every bone of your body
this is why diversity is so important in a lineup of a good party in my opinion |
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mk47
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 07:19
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useless thread , its totally subjective , some like d-nox middle of the night , others want derango all afternoon , its like food , i like chicken curry breakfast and bacon/omelet for lunch sometimes
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gutter
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 11:11
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imo this is the mixing aspect of each artist/producer, soft or hard
soft/smoother mixes tend to sound more "fast" to my ear with less gravity and hard more static and a bit more techno and with more gravity to "push" you on the ground
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to be in phase, to recycle and change and each sound to have a nice tail and glue to the mix and of course the mix to have a defined meta center
no matter style, taste etc
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 11:24
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On 2009-06-24 07:19, mk47 wrote:
useless thread , its totally subjective , some like d-nox middle of the night , others want derango all afternoon , its like food , i like chicken curry breakfast and bacon/omelet for lunch sometimes
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+1.
http://soundcloud.com/martianarts |
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Ellon
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 13:25
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aXis
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 19:25
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ask a woman the same question and im sure ull never ask it again  |
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OpenSourceCode
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 21:34
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rich
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 21:41
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Something about the Ocelot kick is annoying to me and I have a hard time listening, let alone dancing to it. Is it the shape?
Can we talk about that? |
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Jun 25, 2009 02:13
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I like my psytrance to be hard, fast, gritty and aggressive.
I like my drum and bass to be soft, crisp, clean.
That's so weird.
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shahar
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Posted : Jun 25, 2009 07:41
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On 2009-06-24 21:34, OpenSourceCode wrote:
some music "pushes" on you
some music "pulls" you in
the best music does BOTH!
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I liked that. A lot.
Personally I tend to enjoy more my trance softer and less sharp and aggressive in sound. But there's the right moment for everything in a party, and there I try to keep an open mind.
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kriz
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Posted : Jun 25, 2009 08:38
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ocelot
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Posted : Jun 25, 2009 13:44
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On 2009-06-24 07:19, mk47 wrote:
useless thread , its totally subjective , some like d-nox middle of the night , others want derango all afternoon , its like food , i like chicken curry breakfast and bacon/omelet for lunch sometimes
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yeah maybe i wanted to hear some of those comments. i dont think its useless at all.
i think there are voices you haven't heard yet. maybe they will speak on this topic.
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ocelot
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Posted : Jun 25, 2009 13:46
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On 2009-06-24 11:24, disco hooligans wrote:
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On 2009-06-24 07:19, mk47 wrote:
useless thread , its totally subjective , some like d-nox middle of the night , others want derango all afternoon , its like food , i like chicken curry breakfast and bacon/omelet for lunch sometimes
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+1.
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you think its useless? dont write on it BIG BOSS
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ocelot
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Posted : Jun 25, 2009 13:49
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On 2009-06-24 21:41, rich wrote:
Something about the Ocelot kick is annoying to me and I have a hard time listening, let alone dancing to it. Is it the shape?
Can we talk about that?
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yes its the shape. its totally ok to talk about it. there are different ocelot kicks but i would need to know what kick you don't like. (name a track)
there is perhaps a bit too much of the midrange as it goes down in frequency. its perfectly tuned usually to the note of the bassline and is usually a bit too long compared to most other producers so the ringing note tail of the kick is present under the first note of the bassline and sometimes the second.
i am trying to reform my kicks
i just remixed a penta track and also i saw some other peoples kicks and i was noticing the shape... shape is eq in this case as a kick basically sweeps down from up high to down low- very quickly...
so tell me
mind you- its the first time in my life i would speak about this subject. i have prided myself on my kicks and detested others kicks for over 15 years...
only now can i see how the midrange might be a bit much. |
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