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So i want to install ubuntustudio!!!
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Brain Hacked
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Posted : May 30, 2007 21:28
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I donwloaded the iso fil and i have a spare harddrive i would like to know ho hard/easy is to install or does it need much configuration. I someone thinks im lazy u could share some links where i can learn,tahnks |
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Posted : May 31, 2007 02:36
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bilbobagginz
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Posted : Jun 2, 2007 13:25
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Hi, Brain Hacked!
I am quite a powerfull linux user, but I suggest you to 1st post your equipment list, so I could help you with that.
please post your:
* audio card ?
* graphic card ?
* CPU ?
* motheboard chipset
* disk model and interface(SATA/IDE/SCSI) and how much you want to give for linux.
* memory size and speed
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Brain Hacked
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Posted : Jun 2, 2007 20:37
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cool bilbo!!! heres my setup
soundcard-creamware luna and m-audio ozone
graphic-asus n6200
CPU-P4 3.2
Mobo-asus p5w dh deluxe with intel 975x chipset
Hard drive-i have a spare 80gb sata seagate 7200rpm
Ram-1gb 667
Thanks again!!! i would appreciate some advice
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bilbobagginz
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Posted : Jun 3, 2007 01:43
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forget about luna, it doesn't work with linux, because creamware doesn't disclose hardware specs for the card.
as to ozone:
use this link: http://usb-midi-fw.sourceforge.net/
d/l the midisport firmware loader.
then you can use linux driver for snd-usb-audio
For realtime stuff check out:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime
anyway, when you get your hands on this thing you'll have real questions...
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Brain Hacked
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Posted : Jun 3, 2007 05:59
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Thanks Bilbo!!!! my main question is how to install it first, i mounted the iso in a cd, so now the install process is similar to installing windows? or should i learn about linux codes in order to install it, i heard somewhere (dont remember) that it was not easy really some configuration knowledge is need, linux codes. |
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Seppa
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Posted : Jun 3, 2007 12:54
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brain hacked :
Sorry its out of context, but don't you think its a bit of a waste to run a 3.4 pentium 4 on a p5w dh deluxe.
this mobo is expensive and has great performances and you have a cpu that would run very well on a £30 mobo.
what don't you get a core2duo E6600 they went down in price its unbeleivable.
I'm switching for a quad right now cause they cost not too much anymore, as a result I will be selling my core2duo for peanuts.
Also the ram went down in price its ridiculous I bought my 2 gig of corsair 800mhz for £200. it cost now £95.
SO i would recommend you to switch for a 800mhz 6400 ram, the reason being, the performances of the p5w dh deluxe are way better with 800 mhz ram than 667.
Being in mexico i bet you have similar price than america. In america computer stuff is very very very cheap. |
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full_on
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Posted : Jun 3, 2007 14:53
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Seppa, I disagree with you about the 800mhz ram being way better than the 667.
I have a p5w at the lab and I did some benchmarks while running some heavy academic programs (on linux) for some hours and the gain was not relevant. It probably depends on the kind of job, this one was very processor consuming.
Brain Hacked, instaling Ubuntu should be easy. Be sure of making backup of everything essential before get started. If you have access to other computer in the same place, just google anything during install to get an idea of what's going on.
Maybe this can help you with the install:
http://www.easy-ubuntu-linux.com/ubuntu-installation-606-1.html
This one is a little more advanced and deal with some stuff you'll probably never use, but it is good to know they exist.
http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/install.html
After the install, maybe this site can be useful to give you an idea about how to install some extra packages (you'll need to do this).
http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
I recommend you read a lot before get started. Good luck!
And remember, leaving Windows is always a positive change... P)
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Brain Hacked
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Posted : Jun 3, 2007 18:53
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seppa..yes im buying a core 2 duo soon, i had another mobo when i built this DAW but the mobo died suddenly and the store replaced me the mobo but as the other model was out of stock i payed like 20 bucks and got p5w dh but next month i hope to change processor.
Thanks full_on for the links..... |
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Seppa
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Posted : Jun 3, 2007 20:39
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It wasn't about the ram but rather about the combination p5w dh and ram speed. Different motherboard will react differently ( I know something about it, I did put to test a lot of them)
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If you look on the net you will find tones of benchmark with this motherboard at different ram speeds. You'll notice straight away that from one bench to an other the result are very much different.
The bencharmk you did can be as processor consuming as you want, but it has little to do with a daw benchmark and therefore irrelevant for audio(and on top of that its not a windows benchmark)
I assembled and designed many audio computer lines, I can even say that we were one of the first to sell the coreduo for audio computing, therefore I had to test many motherboard with benchmark dedicated for daws.
The results with this particular motherboard were better enough with 800mhz ram to mount them on our systems. Strangely the difference was negligeable between 1066mhz and 800.
In all the price difference between an 800mhz corsair for example and the 667 is negligeable.So I don't see any reason not to go for it.
hope I wasn't to boring ! 
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bilbobagginz
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Posted : Jun 4, 2007 13:59
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so now the install process is similar to installing windows?
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It is a bit different, but not confusing.
it is made of 6 stages. the only complicated one of them is the partitioning of the hard disk:
in linux you need to cut the disk to "partitions", and then to assign them names.
The automatic way is ok, but make sure you don't choose the option that takes over your whole hard drive
I personally make at least these partitions:
1. / ( the "root", under which all the system and non system files will be ), it must be big enough to have all the possible programs you will want to install. I think 10-13 GB is enough
2. swap - it has no name, this one depends... usually (with less than 2GB of memory, you can choose 2*size of ram.
3. /home ( this is where all users' files will be, this way even if you reinstall the system, you can reformat the system partition, but users files will be untouched. This one can take all the remaining space.
If you have several hard disks, you may want to have not 1 swap, but several small swaps each on different disk, this is good for audio.
Another thing is software RAID: you can increase your disks throughput from say 70MB/s that SATA can allow, to 290MB/s or more, if you have enough disks.
Also make sure you choose a fast filesystem, like XFS, for the partition where you want to record stuff to HD ( most probably /home )
When you decide to install ask questions then, it will be more effective.
you don't HAVE to use "linux codes", but it is nice to know several commands, and what they do.
good luck.
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full_on
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Posted : Jun 4, 2007 16:04
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Sorry for the parallel offtopic with Seppa.
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On 2007-06-03 20:39, Seppa wrote:
Strangely the difference was negligeable between 1066mhz and 800.
In all the price difference between an 800mhz corsair for example and the 667 is negligeable.
hope I wasn't to boring !
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You're not boring, I'm always interested in improving my hardware knowledge.
It's interesting how slightly different hardware combinations can yield big performance gains. Of course price is the limiting factor, it's not easy to predict performance without having tried it before (like you did), so I stand corrected. 
Why the difference between a 800mhz and 667mhz is bigger than between 1066mhz and 800mhz is an interesting question, maybe because of some bus speed, which leads us to the point that different hardware combinations yield different results, so experience talks louder here.
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Brain Hacked
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Posted : Jun 5, 2007 07:01
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Geat info and support as usual from this forum and there's no way the info gets boring, i asked for it thanks again |
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bilbobagginz
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 21:12
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I've been hanging around with lad (ex linux-audio-developmen mailing list) people over IRC, and got to a conclusion - you don't really want to mess with ubuntustudio - it is in the beginning of the development, and you can have all the apps on ubuntu too, and ubuntu is quite stable and established as system, and it has a huge userbase, so system related stuff is tested much better.
The programmers work on regular not too customized workstation, exactly for the purpose of being able to run their programs on regular machines.
It's very easy to use ubuntu for audio, so go for ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu.
And you of course can customize it as any linux system.
Cheerz. |
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