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So I want to get the volume of my tracks up so I can play them during a DJ set.
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Chemogen
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Posted : Apr 12, 2008 21:14:53
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Using L2 with a ceiling of -0.3 and a threshold of around -4.5db to -6.5db (no gain reduction) I can get the tracks up to tighter more powerful level. I'm afraid that casually using L2 like this could destroy the track when it goes through big speakers...Any suggestions? |
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hugaw
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Posted : Apr 12, 2008 21:49
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huh...i guess a better mix to begin with...
try to normalize or somethin |
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Chemogen
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Posted : Apr 12, 2008 21:54
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I think my mix is pretty tight...It's just soft. |
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MadScientist
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Posted : Apr 12, 2008 22:02
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as long as you got no gain reduction going on, all you do is making everything louder.
the gain reduction meter shows when the track is actually limiting, and how much is limited.
normalizing is a big no-no btw, and I wouldnt recommend L2 for electronic music also 
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Chemogen
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Posted : Apr 12, 2008 22:07
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So is making things louder without limiting better for a novice to attempt?  Or should I just use the mixer's gain control till I get them mastered? |
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Spindrift
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Posted : Apr 12, 2008 22:15
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Without knowing the source material, the threshold value is completely meaningless.
The important values is RMS level and gain reduction.
If there is no gain reduction it will not apply any limiting and not affect the sound apart from raising the level (and applying dither if you have that active).
If one should generalize the L2 limiting starts to become degrading with a gain reduction of about -6 dB, but of course that figure will depend on the source material.
What you want to do when pushing up a track to fit with released material is to get it to a similar RMS level.
Decide for a target value by analysing a few releases you think sound well mastered and then see how much gain reduction is needed to achieve that.
If the sound gets squashed when you try to bring the RMS to that level it is a problem with the mix. It can possibly be fixed with some EQ by correcting the spectral balance or reducing the frequencies that cause the excessive peaks, but ideally you should look what is causing the peaks and make a new mix of the track.
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Chemogen
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Posted : Apr 12, 2008 22:34
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And if I were to leave the track vanilla, would pumping the gain on the mixer be a viable option to getting the volumes to somewhat match? |
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Spindrift
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Posted : Apr 12, 2008 22:50
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It's better to use the full dynamic range of the CD and converters by normalising the track at least.
And on some systems you might not have a lot of spare gain on the mixer to turn it up with.
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