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so how do you set up your set?

kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : Nov 23, 2010 16:58:20
i am still very far away from playing live but i am interested in how it is done. I know that one is supposed to make a ready-made set before..yes or no?
how do you make your set?
how do you switch between songs in ur set..if they are your own songs..?
what program is best for playing live?
can you do a set in Fl?
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Mandari

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Posted : Nov 23, 2010 18:04
best soft to me: ableton live

preparation: record different stems of your song (like Kick/bass/perc./synth/glitch/fx etc.), cut 8 bar loops, throw into ableton, adjust follow action. add synths and some more loops/shots/sounds and have fun with it

anyways, maaaany many artists out there prepare their live different and prearrange it or even dj their own stuff (even seen with cd) and call it live.... but have to say also seen some more weired things like throw in a cd and playing CS or stuff while on stage. ^^ more doin this than one would believe ....

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vision dream
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Posted : Nov 23, 2010 18:06
right so much people do it on stage. but what can we say if that it is so good music,and they are good artist,i agree with you village






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kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : Nov 23, 2010 18:06
where do you record the stems to?           www.soundcloud.com/kabbalisticvillage
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vision dream
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Posted : Nov 23, 2010 18:08
audio channel,session view or even arrengement view.!
kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : Nov 23, 2010 18:14
can you do this on FL to? or is it better to invest eventually in Abelton?           www.soundcloud.com/kabbalisticvillage
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willsanquil
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Posted : Nov 23, 2010 20:13
Google Vimeo +Tom Cosm, in one of those videos on his Vimeo he goes through how he cuts up his tracks

the main jist of it is to create 5-8 new audio channels in your track, one for each stem (FX, Percussion, Kick/Bass, Lead, Atmosphere whatever) and go through your track and route all the applicable parts to each channel, then record them all so that you have stems. Now chop the stems into loops and put them into the session view

and now get a launchpad or an apc40 and trigger

and yes, Ableton is far and away the best software out there right now for live performance imo.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Nov 23, 2010 21:37
You could start by exporting key elements of every track, pre-mix the kicks for learning reasons and start adding elements one by one until you get a hang of it. Then you will be able to experiment and evolve throught his method.

I would recommend learning Ableton Live for this.

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mudpeople
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 05:42
http://screencast.com/t/6aQ7bv2Q2e5m


Channels-
1. Renoise rewired for bass-kick-stuff
2, 3. percussion loops
4. backing loops
5. sweeps/pads/atmo loops
6. 1-shot sfx
7. 1-shot vocal/warped sfx
8. 1-shot sfx effected
9. breakbeats w/ kick for like, break type stuff
10 and 15 are the 2 dj groups, 3 band EQ on the groups with 4 separate channels in each, one for my tracks, one for techy/prog tracks, one for full power tracks, one for any other tracks
20. master recording channel
21. dj groups recording channel

And the rest are the MIDI rack.

Still loading the thing up with loops and whatnot but you can get an idea of how its laid out.

Its a lot of fun to play with, pretty much nothing ever ends up sounding the same. (except the full tracks )          .
kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : Nov 28, 2010 17:39
so basically i losd each one of my tracks into abelton but divided up into subtracks..like kicks,hats,fx,others..and then i can just press play by each one?

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daark
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Posted : Nov 28, 2010 18:35




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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Nov 28, 2010 21:51
Here's a pic of OOOD's live setup, at our gig last weekend:


Left to right:
Ryo
Roland Handsonic
Crash cymbal
Ride cymbal
Me
Laptop (Ableton Live, 6 VSTis selectable via MIDI channel, reverb and delay controllable for all VSTis)
Nord Modular Mk1
Evolution MK225C for laptop
Alesis MIDIverb 4 for mixer delays
Korg PadKontrol for FX control and those drumpad moments
Mixer
Ramsay
Laptop for playback
FaderFox 8-channel mixer MIDI controller
Launchpad
Korg Kaosscillator
Steve
M-Audio modelling guitar FX unit
Guitar
Korg Karma
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Posted : Nov 29, 2010 12:35
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how do i switch between songs?




well, just go ahead to the scene your next song starts or i like to slowly change different elements until the song is completely changed. i dont like to change the scene as it keeps the track original. maybe also mark your tracks by coloured clips. i just seperate between lighten and darken ones, so i can easily sepeperate between clips playable and clips i should better leave. for tracks i just use different colours, simple like that
im used to read waveforms, but this is something anyone does pretty different. to me its enough and i just know my tracks....soo im pretty familiar with their elements and dont need more than this small view in the corner...
if follow action is programmed, one can just leave it playing anyways for sure....

hope kinda helped, otherwise feel free to have a look here:





lots of fun and pretty easy done, up to oneself how far to go on with that technique.... like it

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PsiloCybian
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Posted : Nov 29, 2010 17:06




Launchpad for launching clips and scenes
Behringer for efects on different chanels
Novation keyboard for some aditional fx on top of tracks ...

Unfortunatly i will have to upload the video again, vimeos converting has somehow put the sound out of sync with the video :S
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Upavas
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Posted : Nov 30, 2010 01:10
Quote:

On 2010-11-28 21:51, Colin OOOD wrote:
Here's a pic of OOOD's live setup, at our gig last weekend:


Left to right:
Ryo
Roland Handsonic
Crash cymbal
Ride cymbal
Me
Laptop (Ableton Live, 6 VSTis selectable via MIDI channel, reverb and delay controllable for all VSTis)
Nord Modular Mk1
Evolution MK225C for laptop
Alesis MIDIverb 4 for mixer delays
Korg PadKontrol for FX control and those drumpad moments
Mixer
Ramsay
Laptop for playback
FaderFox 8-channel mixer MIDI controller
Launchpad
Korg Kaosscillator
Steve
M-Audio modelling guitar FX unit
Guitar
Korg Karma




So you synced the 2 lappies then and the nord and the Korg? What do you use for syncing?
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