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Svampe
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Posted : May 10, 2012 10:40
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Hope it will help topicstarter if somebody could answer this? Dont wanna steal your thread 
Im also really interested in buying new monitors!
I see there is ratings on some of the monitor systems, the KRK "5" and HS80M got top rating. What do you think? does it really matter when it comes to these varieties? I see the Adam monitors are a bit more expensive, but KRK and yamaha are in the same price area.
When it comes to "5" or "8" i guess it all depends on the surroundings as topicstarter says?
These are the ones i have been looking at:
The old Adam monitors i guess
Adam A7X
Adam A5X
KRK RP 5 G2 (top rating)
KRK RP 8 G2
HS50M (top rating)
HS80M
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Babaluma
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Posted : May 10, 2012 11:52
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b0Lt
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Posted : May 10, 2012 13:18
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+1 for the hs80m's
i have them, and i love them! they are a bit midforward designed, the mids and highs are a blast to work with. extreme detailed. the lowend is accurate enough, but they are very room dependent. |
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PoM
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Posted : May 10, 2012 23:33
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you don't need smaller pair expect for your neighbours.. personally i find it a pain to mix bass heavy music on monitors that don't have any low end.it s very boring ,for composition and mixing it s better to have some low end as it s a big part of electronic music. |
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makus
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Posted : May 11, 2012 00:08
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Ampersand
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Posted : May 11, 2012 05:20
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On 2012-05-10 10:40, Svampe wrote:
Hope it will help topicstarter if somebody could answer this? Dont wanna steal your thread
Im also really interested in buying new monitors!
I see there is ratings on some of the monitor systems, the KRK "5" and HS80M got top rating. What do you think? does it really matter when it comes to these varieties? I see the Adam monitors are a bit more expensive, but KRK and yamaha are in the same price area.
When it comes to "5" or "8" i guess it all depends on the surroundings as topicstarter says?
These are the ones i have been looking at:
The old Adam monitors i guess
Adam A7X
Adam A5X
KRK RP 5 G2 (top rating)
KRK RP 8 G2
HS50M (top rating)
HS80M
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No worries dude! It's all helpful. 
I've been looking into what you were saying, Makus, about the vintage monitors and I could snag a pair of the same JBL's you are using on ebay, it has a few days left so I'm curious to see where the price goes but I'm thinking I could get them fairly cheap, though I'd need to buy the amp which is an extra added cost. My other concern, which PoM and you addressed, was that they would be too big for my room. Is this not an issue? My room is a tiny NYC apartment, it's like... maybe 10x12 feet. I mean it's TINY. Would those big JBL's cause problems in my low end? That's my primary concern with the size, the low end.
Anyway, I finally should get some time tomorrow to go to Guitar Center and check some of these out for myself, of course no vintage models but I'm gonna check it all out. I'll let you guys know how it goes, and if I make a decision soon. If I don't buy them soon, perhaps I will hold out for those new Adam's, I'm quite curious about them. I'm trying to make a very deliberate decision so I'm not rushing it but all this feedback is incredible! More feedback in this thread than I expected to be honest. I really do appreciate it guys, you are all doing great things by helping those of us who are trying to learn!  |
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makus
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Posted : May 11, 2012 09:43
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On 2012-05-11 05:20, Ampersand wrote:
I've been looking into what you were saying, Makus, about the vintage monitors and I could snag a pair of the same JBL's you are using on ebay, it has a few days left so I'm curious to see where the price goes but I'm thinking I could get them fairly cheap, though I'd need to buy the amp which is an extra added cost. My other concern, which PoM and you addressed, was that they would be too big for my room. Is this not an issue? My room is a tiny NYC apartment, it's like... maybe 10x12 feet. I mean it's TINY. Would those big JBL's cause problems in my low end? That's my primary concern with the size, the low end.
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Well, you have to choose between no low end or extra low end. I choose extra low end but took care of acoustic treatment. I have the same kinda room, but I treated it with 16 bass traps 20 sm thick each, 4 auralex corner traps and several mappysil mid-range panels. I still need 4 ceiling bass traps to make it even more flat. I would definitely advice you to go same way. If you are able to hummer some nails into the walls and put bass traps on it, it will work out.
As for the Adams, I had them and even had both JBLs and Adams for a month in the same studio properly set up, and I can't say they are any close to each other.
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PoM
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Posted : May 11, 2012 14:11
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imo extra lowend give you more information for mixing than no lowend but it may really depends the rooms acoustic and how you set the monitors / listening position in the room. too much sub can be a pain so really matter the room,the walls constructions .. |
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Ampersand
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Posted : May 11, 2012 22:31
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On 2012-05-11 09:43, makus wrote:
Well, you have to choose between no low end or extra low end. I choose extra low end but took care of acoustic treatment. I have the same kinda room, but I treated it with 16 bass traps 20 sm thick each, 4 auralex corner traps and several mappysil mid-range panels. I still need 4 ceiling bass traps to make it even more flat. I would definitely advice you to go same way. If you are able to hummer some nails into the walls and put bass traps on it, it will work out.
As for the Adams, I had them and even had both JBLs and Adams for a month in the same studio properly set up, and I can't say they are any close to each other.
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Great info, thanks a bunch man. I am definitely going to need to be looking into acoustic treatment soon as well but hopefully this space I am in is temporary.
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On 2012-05-11 14:11, PoM wrote:
imo extra lowend give you more information for mixing than no lowend but it may really depends the rooms acoustic and how you set the monitors / listening position in the room. too much sub can be a pain so really matter the room,the walls constructions ..
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Hm, alright, good stuff to keep in consideration. Thanks for all the input guys, I am definitely narrowing down what I am looking for, getting a clearer picture in my head. Now to try some of these out. |
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Ampersand
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Posted : May 19, 2012 09:47
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So today I ordered a pair of HS80m's. Decided to go bigger than the 50s but I couldn't go too much further due to my budget, this was already pushing it. I'm psyched though, I really liked them when I heard them. Very revealing compared to the JBL 2328's I was looking at.
I wasn't able to purchase the vintage JBL's unfortunately because it was local pick up only and I couldn't get a ride there and shipping was like half the cost of the monitors. They'd probably be too big here anyway, I don't know where they'd even stay, but I'm actually really interested in pursuing another pair of them since I plan to have a few reference monitors when I get back into a bigger place in 6 months or so anyway. So if anybody's got any vintage monitors in mind that they really like, I would love to start a list of some directions to check out.
I get a 30 day return thing on these Yammys and I think I'm gonna like them but if not, it should be easy to try something else. Seems like a lot of you guys like them though, I've read a ton of great stuff.
Anyway, just wanted to thank you all again for your help and support. Can't reiterate enough how great this forum is and how much good it is doing by helping so many of us figure out our musical paths and direction. So thank you all, much love from here in NYC.
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makus
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Posted : May 19, 2012 10:54
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Ampersand
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Posted : May 19, 2012 21:59
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Thanks Makus, they should be here in about a week. I'll definitely share my thoughts with you all. It feels too long to wait but it will be worth it haha. Good looking on the link, that's exactly what I need to start doing next!
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Kryten
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Posted : May 19, 2012 22:06
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : May 20, 2012 09:11
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Can read alot of ppls writing the 'Adam' as an first option When sure its a good/Top monitors But i want to remind/Point you guys that 'Adam' monitors its more fit/Suitable to rock music and so , Theres other's much better for the trance music genre .
And about the small room , Use 5" (No need 6) , More important is to built right acoustics - This is (First) the base of all .
P.s - I know .. All the 'Adam' user's will 'Jump to the ceiling' But who care , My advice for those monitors user's - Read more concrete/Correct information about (And for those who plan - Dont waste money !) .
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makus
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Posted : May 20, 2012 09:59
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I dont think any monitors are suitable for some kind of music, this is crap. Where did you get this from? Is there ANY formula that describes this mechanics? Sound physics is the same for any genre. I work with various types of sound - trance, techno, chill out, acoustic music, film score, tv episodes, sound design, voice overs... I worked on Adams too, man, this is all the same, stop making people think any genre makes any difference. Any sound engineer or speaker constructor will tell you the same. It is way of working / mixing is what different between genres, not the sound physics.
Also I do firmly believe (and actually I am experiencing this) that good 12"-13" speakers in a small room with good acoustic treatment will play MUCH better than these compromise 5" or 6" monitors without low end. So many tracks are coming to me for mastering that have only kick with subs and bass is playing somewhere in the middle - because people do not even know about this dis balance between subs. And there is a whole musical octave between 55 and 27 Hz that people can utilize because someone once adviced to go with 5" shit control.
Stop making compromise decisions! You can build simple, pretty cheap acoustic treatment, get monitors with proper response and finally work! This will change your life 
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