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Sine wave for the sub bass around the 40 hz ? or around the 80 hz ?
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Vermeee
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 05:41:53
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subject says all......
in the 80hz sounds better but seems to be lackin the power tho in the 40z seems to give more power but it makes more busy...... 
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 05:54
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Vermeee
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 06:24
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im tryin to do something i ve never done before, makin the bass with 2 layers ( 2 synths ) instead of 1...
usin the sawtooth as the medium layer and the sine wave as the sub...
im cutin the sawtooth layer around the 90 hz to give iit to the sine wave, tho im consfused about the octave of that sine wave....
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Vermeee
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 06:27
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you dont recomend that tecnic ?
anyway considerin what u have said i believe the place of the sine wave s around the 40hz
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orgytime
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 10:04
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jaja you talking about "tom cosm method" i never got a decent result with it, but... i layered a sine-sub with a sawtooth sub wich sounds great imo.
the advantage of this "tom cosm method" is, that you can put any effect on the bass without killing the subs...
but as i told, i never got good results with it.
about the cut... just watch at the analyzer, there should be no gap/valley/peak when layering. (or watch tom cosm videos)
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Vermeee
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 10:07
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its fucked up coz if i use the sine wave around the 80 - 100 mhz ( depent of the key of the track ) it ll sound great....tho if i throw it one octave lower to the area surround the 40hz it ll get fucked up BUT the sub bass s supposed to be around that area right ?
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Vermeee
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 10:41
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 13:05
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killik
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 13:14
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hm u tried both at the same time? sine with 40, sine with 80 and the saw all together. in my dnb reese basslines i have as sub a low sine and a sine one octave higher. but the higher one is not as loud as the low. |
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daark
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 14:59
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orgytime
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 15:24
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the 40hz are are the subs, but something sounds strange... make sure there are no bassline subs playing with the kick simultaneously, only the higher bass (~100hz+).
is there something wrong with the timing?
maybe set the midinotes of the bassline a bit different helps (or the cutoff automation timing).
(i only have cheap speakers here)
cheers
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orgytime
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 18:12
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 18:19
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me i would use at the fondamental around 40/60 depending the note.. and i would saturate it to get harmonics.. but if you re just looking for a usual bassline you re just making your life harder imo,i would use layering to make something different but not a usual full on bassline. (i m sure it can work great but just a saw do the trick too) |
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Nov 26, 2010 18:57
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Why start with a sine and twist it into having overtones, when you can simply start with a square instead?
Sub-bass: square;
Bass: saw an octave higher than sub-bass.
Either route them through different filters (like in Analog) or have two parallel instances of a synth if it has only one filter (like in Operator). Then you can "play" with bass and sub-bass independently, if you need to. And you will have all the overtones of the sub available to you (like 120 Hz in your example - something you won't get with a sine sub at 40 and a saw at 80).
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