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Simple solutions to make Mexican scene better than ever

Forza
Forza

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Posted : May 18, 2006 18:50
I was thinking that the problems we have aren't as many as the spirit of our scene.

Most people who is seriously involved in trance is connected with other people that could help making a better scene.

Imagine if all of us used our contacts to influence people in the right positions to do something!

The garbabe problem would disappear, restrooms and other facilities would be in better shape, if foreign artists stop supporting promoters who do nasty parties they'll have to improve or disappear.

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Serag
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Posted : May 19, 2006 01:50
good point here dude ! hope this will clear some minds for the new ones and for the ones that are allready in the groove.
Rephlex


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Posted : May 20, 2006 13:29
Its simple... I attended many parties in Mexico when i was living there and now that i moved to israel I have seen a very different scene then the one we have in mexico.. basically what they do here in order to maintain good parties and improve the scene is to really mantain parties a secret. Meaning there would be less people in the party but the people that would attend are only people that you and your friends know and that way you create yourself a good name and only good people will come to your parties you will avoid chakales mostly this way. One day you will have your good list of 1,000 people that you will be able to sms or email about upcoming parties and always keep it underground. Parties like Tierra Magica and all those massive ones always end up in bad trips because they are not underground. Anyway those are just some thoughts that might help.
Rephlex


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Posted : May 20, 2006 13:37
I forgot.. also you guys have to notice that it doesnt take someone with alot of money to actually produce a party.. you can gather with your friends put some money for your first party a small one of course with a small amount of people and a national lineup. after, the money you make from this party (entrance, bar, food etc) you can use it for your next and next party never making a profit for yourselves but actually investing it for the next party.
Rephlex


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Posted : May 20, 2006 13:38
I forgot.. also you guys have to notice that it doesnt take someone with alot of money to actually produce a party.. you can gather with your friends put some money for your first party a small one of course with a small amount of people and a national lineup. after, the money you make from this party (entrance, bar, food etc) you can use it for your next and next party never making a profit for yourselves but actually investing it for the next party.
MॐZC4L10
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Posted : May 23, 2006 09:24
Lets go back 2 the underground, its as simple as that, the thing is that with so many so called producers , that all they r looking 4 is 2 get money,and now that psytrance its known worldwide and its equally enjoyed, the search 4 money has also touched the artists, we have equally bad, lame, pathetic , labels, collectives, party organizers etc... as artists all around the globe!!!!!. And we have 2 face that we r infested here in mexico with these parties with either a fake line up, or a shitty 1, the kinda music that everybody likes, and thats where i think we have a huge problem now, cuz the party its filled with lots of people that just follow the caddle, without knowing what this is about. So i`d say.... keep it small, keep it safe, keep it underground, small gatherings cant be a bad idea, maybe just 1 or 2 foreign live acts, and more nacional talent, so the idea of the party wont be charging 2 much cuz of the huge line up that its brought 2 you by maia recs hihi, and not making a big deal about it, not a lot of publicity, so the whole idea for the party organizers wont be as i said b4 to gain alot of money, but to give the peple, the real party people, what we deserve: a party where all that its promissed its given, a party where you know that since its not a big announced party, there`s a good chance that the people attending the party its going to be nunderground people, people that who knows why we r there, people who knows how 2 behave.
I think we should give it a shot, there is nothing 2 lose!

Best wishes

Cya

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Serag
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Posted : May 23, 2006 09:44
yes! is preety much like the last Goa Gil's party.

No need of security, maybe 1,200 people no more, everybody was having fun like in the old times,
when it was underground and you felt that it was really a priviliege to be there.
Then at morning everyone with plastic bags taking care of the trash but mostly the vibe !, what a vibe !!!
I hope will be like this for the next parties.
Lets keep it like this!
Aluxe
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Posted : May 23, 2006 22:50
If we want the MAGIC, we have to make the parties with LOVE, with absolute reverence for ART, in harmony with N*A*T*U*R*E and with a sincere intent on making something <<<<TRUTHFULLY>>>>> for the PURE essence of magic. We need to strive for the highest feelings, for "LA NETA" amigos. There is no other way around this, we will reap what we sow people, it's as simple as that. So lets aim to high frequencies where true psychedelia takes place.

Let's plant that seed deep in the underground, where we can celebrate life in sincerity and have faeries manifest in our dance. You know if you want the faeries and UFO's to come to your party then your party needs to be something special. Would you not agree? You think the magical entities will want to visit your party if its full of mental rubbish, ego and commercial trash?????? That is just a call for unwanted vibes and people with the wrong mindset to flood your party.

Go beyond what is fake, beyond bullshitting yourself and the scene. Strive for pure magic.

Ask yourself, what type of party you want to make? Get this: You can have a tight professional organization, with great promotion and fantastic line up making well recognized parties. However as good as this can sound, it does not mean your parties will be magical. If you want to make a magical party, you need to then think like an elf, like a fairy, like a magical being who's eye is his heart. You must turn yourself into a yogi, a shaman, find that duende magico that is AWAKE, aware and flying high on unselfish vibes and love for art. Only then will you get into a different mindset where you begin to step out from the typical, stale, dull and plastic formula that makes parties boring and soulless. One thing is for sure, your party needs to have SOUL. Give it all

And when making the decorations for the party, please people try and do something ORIGINAL, everyone just keeps on repeating the same style used in all the international parties and it all just looks the same. Art has no rules, you can do ANYTHING. And that is so cool. Stop copying the standards of the good parties worldwide and start CREATING your own art and own styles. ART is not a formula, its not a cult where you must do things a special way to fit in with the psy trance scene. It is freedom of expression, EXPRESS YOURSELF anyway you want, get that locochon out and explode into something NEW, raw, fresh, ALIVE. Plus in a place like Mexico we have plenty of inspiration, we have all types of arts and crafts and things that can add a unique blend to the psy trance scene here. There is plenty of food for absolutely new and unique ideas.

Now about the musical artists. Well obviously this part needs to be chosen very carefully. But some people here are suggesting that we should give more opportunities to the local artists and less opportunities to the international artists. However in my personal opinion we should give more opportunity to the artists with the BEST music, REGARDLESS of where they come from. Fuck the country ego bullshit, in the dance floor there is no nationality, we are one tribe, one world, one family. IN LAKESH

Yes lets stop worshiping the international artists but then lets not start getting stuck accepting national artists as if nationality has anything to do with good music. How about we better worship good music regardless of nationality? I think that in a GOOD party only the Mexican artists that are up to the level should be accepted to play, otherwise the whole party has to suffer with mediocre music. And all just because the artists are local???? Give me a break. I say no special benefits. I prefer a party with only international artists that play the best music than a blend of both international and Mexican artists which in the process brings the overall music quality down. Lets just grow up and be impartial, accept only good music, regardless of who plays. You want to play, well then you got to have seriously kick ass music. Otherwise kiddies, Mexican or international please go back to the studio and practice some more.

Anyways, these are my two cents for improving the scene Mexican scene.
Serag
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Posted : May 24, 2006 05:21
Oh man !! i almost cry with this post -good one really-.
Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 24, 2006 18:46
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MॐZC4L10
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Posted : May 27, 2006 23:23
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On 2006-05-23 22:50, Aluxe wrote:


Now about the musical artists. Well obviously this part needs to be chosen very carefully. But some people here are suggesting that we should give more opportunities to the local artists and less opportunities to the international artists. However in my personal opinion we should give more opportunity to the artists with the BEST music, REGARDLESS of where they come from.




I never said that my friend... if u read carefully i never said that we should give more chances to local artists... i said TALENT, wich means a big deal man, Lately @ the parties i`ve had the feeling that the talent its going down, the new generation of mexican djs its kinda poor, poor music selection, and poor technique. Party organizers should pay more attention to the guys playing, and i think that they should not play only cuz they r friends, but because they have talent.
Just wanna clear this!

Best wishes

Cya           Memento Mori
Aluxe
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Posted : May 29, 2006 09:41
Hey nice comments, good vibes bros !!!

Mezcalito, bad wording on my part. I wasn't really responding to what you or anybody said in particular. Just pushing the idea that party organizers should choose who plays at parties based like you said on TALENT, and not simply that they are local artists or that the promoters like the ring of international artists in their flyer. Thats just BS. What matters is the talent, which goes beyond nationality and even beyond the name and hype a certain artist can have. A lot of artists can have more hype and prestige around them than the talent and music they can deliver in the dance floor. Smart promoters who want the real shit should not be fooled by this, instead they should examine who is really playing the best music and not be influenced by all the fame the artist has.

And I totally agree with what you said about friends, this seems to get on the way a lot. Party organizers letting mediocre artists perform just because they are close friends with them and don't want to offend them by telling them they can't play. Organizers need to understand that the whole party suffers when they let things like this happen. If you want to make good parties, if you are serious about it then you have to get serious about issues like this.

There is no doubt about it, GOOD MUSIC should have complete monopoly of the party.

DJ Hoffman
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Posted : May 29, 2006 23:42
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On 2006-05-29 09:41, Aluxe wrote:

There is no doubt about it, GOOD MUSIC should have complete monopoly of the party.





i agree.......... the whole party suffers when bad djs play, stuff like organizers beign djs also or they have a queue list of friends wanting to play and like there are 20 djsets for a party of 8 hrs or 12..... this is where the trouble begins
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