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Posted : Jan 14, 2007 23:41
Hey
Haven't been here for a while...
I Wanted to inform you guys that I have written a nice Sidechain tutorial for Cubase SX3 (only SX3, ATM. it won't work in Cubase 4 – because of a nasty bug in C4 has... anyway, all the info regarding this, is in the doc)
I'm sure that it will be helpful for you psychedelic heads as you mainly work with Phat kicks and even Phatter basslines...
This technique is known for a while now, and while it is a "side rode" for achieving true sidechain in Cubase (cause Cubase won't Sidechain natively - ATM) - it WORKS. Many folks won't engage with sidechain because they are not sure what it is and whether it is or it isn't helpful for them. Nonetheless, it IS helpful and likewise important in the production/mixing process.
I hope you will find some benefit from this technique (and I'm sure you will!)
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Posted : Jan 15, 2007 10:18
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On 2007-01-14 23:41, Ariel G wrote:
I hope you will find some benefit from this technique (and I'm sure you will!)
I'm sure I won't. It's in Hebrew
osker246
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Posted : Jan 15, 2007 11:29
Nooooo!
I was just asking for help on this the other day too.
Translation please?
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Posted : Jan 15, 2007 15:19
Oops
Forgot to realise this is a worldwide forum.
I'll do my best to translate the article ASAP
Cheers
Ariel G
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PS
Osker... wanna learn some hebrew instead ?
Lets start with SHALOM (hello)
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Posted : Jan 15, 2007 21:52
Hey guys. If you don't understand Hebrew, and don't want to wait for a translation, I found a video of a method of sidechaining on youtube.
It works for me. Check it out:
If you don't have the compressor used in the video, (I didn't), you can get Vanilla Compressor from Chunkware for free here
http://www.chunkware.com/?page_id=4
It can do sidechaining the same way.
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Posted : Jan 16, 2007 01:56
Shalom everybody!
Thanks a bunch Ariel G I'm looking forward to reading it.
Saf,
Thats the same video I tried going by. I even bought the same compressor used in that video. I'm just having second doubts if I'm doing it right or not. When I try doing it, it doesn't seem to make much of a difference in sound.
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Posted : Jan 16, 2007 23:47
osker246,
You'll only notice the difference if a kick is played at the same time as a bass note. If it's right you'll notice you can aways hear your kick clearly because it is reducing the volume of the bass automatically.
Try doing a kick rush over top of a bassline, and tweak the settings so it doesn't sound like mud.
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Posted : Jan 17, 2007 05:57
Ahh ok,
I really didn't understand what side chaining was in the first place. But now that you explained it in easier terms I notice the difference now. Thanks
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 21:23
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On 2007-01-14 23:41, Ariel G wrote:
Hey
Haven't been here for a while...
I Wanted to inform you guys that I have written a nice Sidechain tutorial for Cubase SX3 (only SX3, ATM. it won't work in Cubase 4 – because of a nasty bug in C4 has... anyway, all the info regarding this, is in the doc)
I'm sure that it will be helpful for you psychedelic heads as you mainly work with Phat kicks and even Phatter basslines...
This technique is known for a while now, and while it is a "side rode" for achieving true sidechain in Cubase (cause Cubase won't Sidechain natively - ATM) - it WORKS. Many folks won't engage with sidechain because they are not sure what it is and whether it is or it isn't helpful for them. Nonetheless, it IS helpful and likewise important in the production/mixing process.
I hope you will find some benefit from this technique (and I'm sure you will!)
OK.
Am I suppose to read it right to left or left to right?
maybe top to bottom.
Plz Advize..
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 01:18
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OK.
Am I suppose to read it right to left or left to right?
maybe top to bottom.
Plz Advize..
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 05:06
For me the whole reason why I would want to side chain would be so I could do ducking and place the kick and bass on top of each other, Is there any real way to accurately do this outside of using Logic? (I had a friend who could do the ducking in logic really well)
I've tried Colin's tutorial using the waves stuff, I've used the TC stuff, and none of them actually work the way I want them to, and Xyla rigged up something in the logic environment to actually do it perfectly... Since I don't use logic, I've been dying to actually get it to do that in Cubase... Maybe I'm not doing it right, but I've tried adjusting every setting for hours on end and still encounter a bit of an issue once you put the kick and bass on top of each other...
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Posted : Jan 23, 2007 08:08
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On 2007-01-19 05:06, mubali wrote:
For me the whole reason why I would want to side chain would be so I could do ducking and place the kick and bass on top of each other, Is there any real way to accurately do this outside of using Logic? (I had a friend who could do the ducking in logic really well)
I've tried Colin's tutorial using the waves stuff, I've used the TC stuff, and none of them actually work the way I want them to, and Xyla rigged up something in the logic environment to actually do it perfectly... Since I don't use logic, I've been dying to actually get it to do that in Cubase... Maybe I'm not doing it right, but I've tried adjusting every setting for hours on end and still encounter a bit of an issue once you put the kick and bass on top of each other...
WHat do u want to do???
Colin´s tutorial is pretty clever imo. Similar to the video, but Colin used stereo group instead quadro one.
For TC is even easier. Put the "side chain trigger plugin" at kick channel, put the Compressor Desser at bass, tweak some knobs and u get a side chain.
For easy understanding, I suggest to make a 4 beats synth(a big 4 beat note from any synth), and place the compressor at this. Now u can feel exactly the compressor working while there´s signal at kick.
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Posted : Jan 25, 2007 15:25
In logic its much easier and quick to do sidechain,.
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Posted : Jan 25, 2007 15:26
,..,,.
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Posted : Jan 25, 2007 20:21
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On 2007-01-25 15:25, Bloomen wrote:
In logic its much easier and quick to do sidechain,.
