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Medisin
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Posted : Apr 22, 2010 23:12
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MR VOMERS
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Posted : Apr 22, 2010 23:22
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haha kiriyama made us take him to waffle house too..he was hating life afterwards
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BrettFromTibet
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Posted : Apr 26, 2010 00:53
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Saw the Hallucinogen live + DJ set at the Fox Theatre in Boulder. I have seen Simon play dozens of times, went to the first Shpongle show (live at Mt. Fuji) - and he still rocks it every time. the live dancers at this show were amazing... fully flourescent and tripped out.
Love the new album. Just watching him press play on the track 'Ineffable Mysteries' was worth it. That track just lights the collective kundalini on fire - no one else can make music that powerful.
This show lit me on fire and left my friend (who'd never heard goa trance / psy-breaks) speechless.
I'm hope I'm never too jaded to enjoy Hallucinogen mixing live in visually spectacular place.. on a good sound system... filled with hundreds of smiling, dancing, sparkling people. |
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SineFreq
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 16:02
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what live synth? I've seen him like four times... never seen him... blah blah bleahubber
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That's because you've never seen his live set my friend only DJ, see him at 1015 folsom and its awesome. plays two MS-20, nord lead, and other various goodies. Not to mention getting to hear songs play out that are not on his albums, pfff its pretty rediculous.
so yeah Thank You Simon 
P.S. Symbiosis was the shit... and I think I paid 15 bucks for 1015 two times now. |
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Nivlem
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Posted : Apr 28, 2010 06:29
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Apr 28, 2010 15:06
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Thanks, that was a great illustration. Now I see why people complain about his DJ sets - he does look bored. The show is awesome! Before, I didn't realize there were more than 1-2 people in the show. This is a real concert. Great stuff. |
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Nivlem
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Posted : Apr 29, 2010 04:48
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Thanks for taking it in the way that I meant it. The live Shpongle show is a rare and beautiful thing, from what I understand. I haven't been fortunate enough to catch one... yet 
I'd still love to see Simon throw down solo as Hallucinogen. There's certainly not as many "live" aspects with that as there are with Sphongle. He is working a mixing console, though, and hardware effects processors, or used to at least. |
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Squee.Isme
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Posted : Apr 30, 2010 00:54
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simon may be the father of psytrance, but that is from his work as hallucinogen. to say that shpongle is psytrance is merely guilt by association. 'psytrance' is old enough now to have some actual definitions to it that make it what it is, and shpongle does not fit the bill.
to say that shpongle is psytrance is assuming that anything the he makes is psytrance. if i pick up a guitar and jam out a chord progression, the fact that i produce psytrance doesn't make that chord progression any different.
hope its an awesome show, i won't be there for _______ and _______ reason.
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Nivlem
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Posted : Apr 30, 2010 04:41
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Agreed... but what if you are playing a tuba with a bunch of wet spaghetti in the bell? |
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dtmoney
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Posted : May 4, 2010 09:44
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The Dallas party was speck-fucking-tacular. His live hallucinogen performance demonstrated why he's the best. Even though a dj set, he kicked some serious ass with shpongle.
I did not want the party to end. I really hope he comes back here in the future. |
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dtmoney
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Posted : May 4, 2010 09:48
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On 2010-04-30 00:54, Squee.Isme wrote:
simon may be the father of psytrance, but that is from his work as hallucinogen. to say that shpongle is psytrance is merely guilt by association. 'psytrance' is old enough now to have some actual definitions to it that make it what it is, and shpongle does not fit the bill.
to say that shpongle is psytrance is assuming that anything the he makes is psytrance. if i pick up a guitar and jam out a chord progression, the fact that i produce psytrance doesn't make that chord progression any different.
hope its an awesome show, i won't be there for _______ and _______ reason.
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Who cares man. Seriously, shpongle is better than most psytrance released today anyways.
It's not that big of a deal, LOL. |
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willsanquil
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Posted : May 8, 2010 14:20
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Just got back from the Shpongle show in Portland, and...well.
There is a major, major, major difference between seeing him play at a psytrance event, and seeing him play a more mainstream styled event, which this was.
There are lots of factors - a big one being that since I last saw him I have been producing and training my ear more and therefor expecting more - I find that its really hard for me to not rip apart the music analytically. Especially when I've heard simon's catalogue so much, the whole set seemed dumbed down, easily digestible version of shpongle? Definitely more american star-focused ego-building type 'performance' where people are actively cheering for some person other than focusing on the trance dance experience and the accompanying journeys.
Another huge factor was the crowd - not a psytrance group. Pretty much anytime there are drunken people around, I get annoyed and there was plenty of that.
Anyways though I can't really begrudge him for doing it this way, the crowd obviously liked it, he gets paid, its not particularly hard to do for him - and apparently he still throws down real hallucinogen sets when he's booked for a real psytrance party so I guess I'll have to catch him whenever that happens. A part of me wants to be like man simon how can you sell out like this, this music is so special - blah blah, but can I really expect him to be hardcore purist about it after what, 10+ years of shpongle performances?
I thought it was pretty funny, as I was driving home from Alchemy fest in Norcal this past weekend I listened to a good stretch of shpongle, but almost none of what he played out...he even played out 'I Am A Freak' which I consider to be his worst track.
Disappointing. As for what is or isn't psytrance...I was kind of fond of 'psytrance' being a general, not-pigeon-holing term for music that is psychedelic and whose intent is to put the listener into a trance state - whether that be at 80 bpm or 170, though I'm quite fond of the 145 range myself
I think we get in trouble by saying what is or isn't psytrance - are you saying that if you play a chord progression with a guitar in your track that it automatically isn't psytrance? I mean, I don't usually like guitar in my psytrance, but does that mean it can't be done in a cool way? I always thought one of the tenets of psytrance was 'no rules'
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Shiranui
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Posted : May 8, 2010 15:44
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I think in order for something to be psytrance it must be psychedelic and danceable
The russians get the "psychedelic" part down, but not the "danceable" part
The israelis get the "danceable" part down, but not the "psychedelic" part
Shpongle does both effortlessly. Who cares if the sound is dated? I'd rather hear good old music than bad new music.
Not to say that there aren't artists I'd rather listen to... Younger Brother and Ott definitely both get me going more. |
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willsanquil
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Posted : May 8, 2010 22:39
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Hold up there  I never said the music was dated, the music is still incredibly powerful - when he played a shpongle DJ set @ Orb festival it wasn't stale and the vibe from everyone on the floor was amazing - he also seemed genuinely interested in what was going on as opposed to being disconnected and playing the role of the 'star'
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Squee.Isme
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Posted : May 9, 2010 02:17
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im sorry, but we live in a world of definitions, words, labels.
it doesn't matter whether you like it or not, it just is, i don't particularly like it myself, but i can't change it and neither can you...
psychedelic trance was called such because of its diversion from mainstream trance music. mainstream trance music has already been defined by the 4/4, the speed, certain other aspects.
psytrance was young when shpongle was born, but it HAS been defined.
i know this is a little sad, since there are tons of styles of music or single songs that are both 'psychedelic' and 'trancey', but these are just words. if i listen to a track that i think i would enjoy more at my house, that doesn't make it 'house music'!
to say that shpongle is psytrance is to completely dilute all the music that is psytrance. i know i know, its just a definition and all that, but it is what it is.
saying that shpongle is psytrance lends to this particular situation to occur:
person 1: hey, do you like to dance and party?
person 2: yes
person 1: check it out, here is a flyer for a party you should come to
person 2: oh sweet! what kind of music?
person 1: psytrance! you heard it before?
person 2: OH YA, I LOVE SHPONGLE
person 1: .................................................
sorry, but this is just silly. the reason for genres and labels is so that people know what they are going to be listening to, to some extent at least. to have a person come to one of our parties with the opinion that shpongle is psytrance would almost be RUDE. talk about setting someone up for a meltdown!
so, to repeat myself again for all you to read, shpongle IS NOT PSYTRANCE. he started doing what he was doing when psytrance was a wee little baby, and simon helped birth psytrance from his previous work, that is all. IF shpongle is psytrance, then we desperately need to come up with a better name for what really is psytrance, so my mom doesn't get confused.
again, i apologize, but definitions are there for a reason, and that reason is that humans are label-hungry word freaks. its our very nature.
and yes, i know that this debate is just that, a debate. nothing is really going to come from this, but being human, i like to speak my mind sometimes.
and remember, there is a word for music that is not defined.... experimental! haha just kidding, but um ya.....
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