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should i work at 44100/16 or 48000/24?
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darclon
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Posted : Mar 16, 2004 02:32
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im working with cubasesx and i have a pretty old echo-audio gina 20 sound card. i wonder if i should set cubase to work with 48000hz and 24bit or should i just let it at 44100hz and 16bit? what should i work with... and what are the differences? i dont really understand this yet  would be happy for any easy to understand info 
thanks!!
edit: btw. i got the soundcard connected to a roland digital mixer over SPDIF...
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kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko
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Posted : Mar 16, 2004 03:23
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44100hz 24 bit
after in the end export final mix as 16 bit that the machine will be able to read it
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binary_me
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Posted : Mar 16, 2004 07:21
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and what does 32 bit float mean???
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Trip-
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Posted : Mar 16, 2004 09:36
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gina 20 records at 20bit only no? or maybe I'm wrong?
If the card support 24bit, then of course you better work with the higher bitrate. There is little difference between 48000 and 44100 sample rates - so to minimize hassle - just work with 44100 - If you find it easy to work with 48000 then do that then.
In any case 24bit resolution will give you better results than 16bit.
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motorik
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Posted : Mar 16, 2004 11:09
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As kukan said at the end of all the process you'll have to convert it to 44100 16 bit in order to burn it into CD.
OF course making all the process while working on the tune at higher sample rate and bit is better
even though the convertion at the end.
You just have to know the higher sample rate and bit audio files require a bigger space on the hard disk , the bigger the rate and bit the bigger the size of the file.
it's up to u 
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darclon
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Posted : Mar 16, 2004 14:33
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Trip-
actually the soundcard works with 24bit when using spdif. analog is only 20bit.
so would you recommend me to set cubaseSX to 24bit when starting a new project? or should i even set it higher, even tho i have only 24bit capabilities?
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jon
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Posted : Mar 16, 2004 16:45
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yup : 24 bit, 44kHz. I used to use 48kHz, but it is too much hassle to resample for almost no improvement in quality....
Remember to dither when you finally convert to 16 bit. Cubase has a built in dither plugin which will do this. Just choose the 16bit option, and turn autoblack on: Dither adds random noise which paradoxically improves the quality when changing wordlength!! But when there is total silence you dont want any noise : this is the autoblack option.
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WAVELOGIX
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Posted : Mar 16, 2004 18:40
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yep , as jon said ....
44khz / 24 bit will be really good and then later on u can downsample to cd specifications ...
binary_me = 32 bit floating point is the method in which the cpu calculates all the operations and has nuthin to do with audio processing ....
it is just an indication of how fast ur cpu can do calcualtions .... |
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solipt1c
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Posted : Mar 16, 2004 19:49
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GTN, you're wrong
32 bit has nothing to do with the speed of your cpu's calculations, and has everything to do with audio processing.
I explained 32 bit quite thoroughly on here a few weeks ago, use the search function. |
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solipt1c
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Posted : Mar 16, 2004 19:53
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binary_me
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Posted : Mar 16, 2004 21:15
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thank you very much man...that was very informative.....learnt the qhole concept of quantizing
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WAVELOGIX
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Posted : Mar 17, 2004 12:14
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solipitc m8 , u didnt get what i meant to say ...
when i said 32 point had nuthin to do with audio processing i meant to say tht it did not have to do anything to do with useable audio bitdepth ....
i mean u surely dont get and cannot use 32 bit audio ...
how ever ure right on tht , 32 bit is definatrly used to to audio dsp @ much higher resolution / wordlength giving more detail and quality in audiable audio ...
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igneous
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Posted : Mar 17, 2004 13:58
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most new plugins work internally at 32 bit... that is more intense calculations giving better clarity especially at low signals such as reverb tails. In order to understand it one must understand synthesis and dsp details... a search or the web would do it even though is a bit of a too much of a technical subject.
the best thing to do is work at 44.1 at the highest bit depth possible before the computer goes nuts... I usually work at 44 24 bit.
then of course you must convert the final mix to 44.1 16 bit to burn to cd. u should use a good dithering plugin such as UV HR that comes with wavelab or sx or nuendo 2.
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inout
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Posted : Mar 17, 2004 23:38
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how to use this plugin (uv hr dither)
should i put it in insert slot on master section of cubase? |
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