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Should I change my learning process ?
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faxinadu
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Posted : Sep 6, 2011 22:02
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 6, 2011 22:49
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Id advice focus your mind rather on one synth first.Than only on one synthesis,subtractive as Will suggested is a good starting point.
From there you can expand to more synths and other forms of synthesis like fm etc.
Than read and educate yourself as much as possible from good trustfull sources.
Never forget to spend more time on making music than on reading about it.
Finish each track!! no matter how much you cannot hear it.Don't find yourself months or years later with hundreds of unfinished tracks and not one finished.
And of course each to his own, here are lots of great advice ,actually all are somehow good imo.
peace
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minus
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Posted : Sep 6, 2011 23:38
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get a few good vst's, 10-20,,, chk them all out ,, choose the ones which u like, or which suit your style of sound,, then delete the rest of crap vst's and then work like a dog learning the vst's u like, and get to know them inside out,, nd if u feel stagnent, feel free to explore more vst's,, there is no harm in using presets in the starting,, first learn to tweek those preset's slowly you will understand what each knob does, then u can start by your own synthesis,, and dont feel shy about using sample packs,,, use all resourses availiable, in the beggeninig,,,, then slowly you will be able to recognise the different vst's sound's other artists use in their tracks,,, so you will realise that preset's and sample packs r so common that your sound sounds like everyone else. and that will motivate you to do your own synthesis,, tht is the natural learning curve,but use all resources availiable to you,, there r so many tutorials online, you can learn about each vst! each daw, each plugin, each everythng,, so do your research ,,, and dont waste too much time on the theory part,, i mean,, do read and chk tutorials etc,,,,but most important part is do work in the studio, you will have to put in time there, and work work work,, all this will fruit eventually with hard work and nothing else. make it
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psyraal
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Posted : Sep 7, 2011 00:01
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There is a book i think called 'Synthesizer Wizard - From presets to power user' - And i think it even comes with a simple vst so you get to touch around and learn as you read. Something like that.
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faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht
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Posted : Sep 7, 2011 02:47
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Soundmagus
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Posted : Sep 7, 2011 03:37
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Keep practicing, if it means copying something exactly then do it, if to just learn X techniques or whatever.
Mark
Check out my site for Video tutorials and other tips & Tricks
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Padmapani
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Posted : Sep 7, 2011 04:48
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On 2011-09-07 02:47, faxinadu wrote:
there is a world of sound out there, i see no logic in limiting yourself, beginner or pro.
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a few others have already made the point, but still, when i started out, i fell in the same trap as almost anyone else and downloaded a shitload of softsynths searching for the one that makes those killargh sounds 
of course none did what i was looking for and it wasn't until i stuck with one synth (rob papen blue in my case. wouldn't reccomend too highly now, there's better synths out there) that i really figured out what it's all about and what each knob does.
if you don't know what you're doing, having more synths will not help you in any way. it's only after understanding the basics that you see the strenghts and weaknesses of each plugin and can choose accordingly. then trying out lots of plugs does make sense and can lead you to unique sounds.
imho it's also good to have a "go-to" synth you know inside out. so if you just got an idea for a patch, you can fire it up and make that patch without even thinking. |
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Vermeee
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Posted : Sep 7, 2011 08:16
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On 2011-09-07 02:47, faxinadu wrote:
there is a world of sound out there, i see no logic in limiting yourself, beginner or pro.
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a few others have already made the point, but still, when i started out, i fell in the same trap as almost anyone else and downloaded a shitload of softsynths searching for the one that makes those killargh sounds
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this s the proces of learning...
the artisan will check many tools before choosin the ones that will carry on....
its a newbish thing to dload shitloads of soft....but this s the process of learnin ..
why to choose synth1 to start? or vanguard or albino or sylenth ? how the heck the begginer will know which one to stick if he still doestn even know the difference beetween them... ?
he/she gota taste before make decisions..
there s no right process of learnin...but individual process...
and to thnk that u gotta change ur process s also part of the process..ur individual process..
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willsanquil
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Posted : Sep 7, 2011 10:13
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It - doesn't *really* matter what you stick with at first - you probably won't anyways.
You'll probably do what a lot of us did and download everything, only to come to the realization later that this isn't helping you 
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Nabla jpr
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Posted : Sep 8, 2011 12:27
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just stay away from girlfriends, they will slow down or sometimes stop the learning process
cats are friends of the learning process, they sleep between you and the monitor and this will help you to concentrate
apart from that I think it's matter of years of experience and work.. of course reading, watching and talking will help to stay focused and learn
my 2 cent
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mudpeople
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Posted : Sep 8, 2011 13:59
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Lol @ girlfriends, Ive just gotten my live setup almost ready for a recording and she wants to spend time together... Which is nice, usually it means naked time 
Id ask why you think changing the process would help? Are you learning? If so, whats the problem?
If you're not getting where you want to yet, Id advise to keep trying, it took me a long time, and a lot of cat-sleep, and a LOT of just messing with synths to get where I am, and where I am isn't what I would call 'good enough' yet.
Try everything, is what Id say, dip your beak into every trough cuz you never know whats going to cause the 'AHA' moment. And theres some neat synths that came out this year, its been a good harvest for software KVR forum also is a good resource for knowledge, and beta versions of plugs still in development (and if you beta test the developer will if youre lucky and a good tester give you a copy of the finished software once its done, sometimes) as well as obscure, unique, and old abandonware plugs, sometimes rare old plugs http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4633405#4633405 like scuzzphut  The Lite version is the best trance gate ive found, its very straightforward, and the full version has delay and filter syncs as well
Just, keep at it, keep going, if you feel hopeless or stagnant, a break works wonders, go DO stuff, stuff that will inspire your creativity in the future, just living, doing stuff you like to do that isnt music I took a year or so off and learned to dj, which helped my understanding of the general ideas of the music, and helped clear my mental vision so instead of just thinking of cool sounds, theres whole songs behind them now
Which brings up a good point; don't spend a lot of time getting the sounds just right, first concentrate on getting the general outline of your idea out and in digital form, then you can have your way with it at your leisure. The initial inspiration is a fleeting thing, and distraction is its enemy, get that idea OUT where the world can perhaps enjoy it, take too long and it might just mutate into something unpleasant.
But don't throw it away, Ive taken old crap from years ago and turned it into something new, inspired by something I overlooked, or whatnot.
Don't worry if it takes a long tiem, before you know it youll be giving advice on Isratrance and making the sounds you want, and it will feel like it was just yesterday you started out
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