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Enertopia
Enertopia
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Posted : Oct 13, 2007 01:33
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On 2007-10-13 01:29, CRX(HSS Records) wrote:
enertopia sarasin spoke u very well and u replied in the rudest way u could.
maybe u should return to death metal and make a project and release some steam
Hope u get your copy real soon cause its sucks not havin one with your music.
but nowadays u should know that vas need time to grow
b positive
CRX,HSS
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For sure man, death metal is still alive.
I understand your point of view, happy that you feel it, I agree with you, I feel it too.
I understand as well his possitive attitude as well,I do react when I am judged or
beeing patronize about my way of carying of my own creations and family. I can only say that my family and arts are things that I do with love and passion, it is what I love doing, I give respect and that is why I get even madder when people think that the first mistake was made by the artist by not carying anough of they own creations.
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle
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Posted : Oct 13, 2007 03:11
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On 2007-10-12 22:52, aXis wrote:
and Tsabeat can we stay on topic rather than u asking me abt who is profiting from me ??
Lol ... are u a kid ?? do u believe everything u hear ??
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i will agree i dont realy care who profit from who exept myself and related.
and no im not a kid , when i was younger i used to think like u actualy.
i will offcourse not name names but i know more then 10 artists and dj's around me who live of it includ rent electricity smokes and food...
so u can believe what u want and i believe what i want
and for general info i realesed more then 50 tracks for free on the internet , as well donated some to labels 2-3 years ago
but... still i hate when peaple lie to me. ask it for free dont promise something that u dont gonna give. let me decide when i know the truth. this what matters
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TAS
Toxic Anger Syndrome
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Posted : Oct 13, 2007 03:44
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THANKS for reminding and warning newcomers like myself of this kinda shit. If it wasn´t for the threads about labels acting like this I would not think of certain things thats needs to be in the contracts so I´m "protected" to 100%
I have recieved 2 incomplete contracts that just says the label has the full rights to my tracks if I signed them.
No date of last day of payment, no name on the label owner or adress to him or the label etc etc...
I told the guy this and he was going to do a new contract. But instead I got the deal; you get the money on your account first, then you can send the 24bit wav. Wich will work perfectly for me in a way. Accept that I can never be sure to recieve an copy of the cd when it´s finally done. So guess I need a sort of contract there. So thanks for this thread again... not easy to remember everything as an newbie
The second one am I still waiting for... "this is about trust" I was told at first... and I am a person who likes to trust other human beeings... but after reading all this shit I have stopped doing that. So I told him to get me an proper contract with ALL THINGS NEEDED before he got anything else then mp3´s... I don´t trust anybody I told him... So I just have to wait and see whats happens now... I have already accomplished my "goal" to rls 1 track on a CD so I´m not so "horny" to rls more... time will tell what happens..
... and you guys/girls thats complains about the producers warning us others about this, just shut the hell up. It´s not easy to know everything and that this scene is full of A-holes. And a reminder now and then doesn´t harm anyone... does it?? There´s popping up new artist almost everyday and they might never had heard stories like this... so I think it´s great. You that don´t care or just comes here to complain about those who has "the right to complain"... just DON`T READ THE THREAD and stay out of "our" buisness if it is so hard to read that ppl wants justice!
  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Toxic-Anger-Syndrome/92541329414
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cut-the-Cheese/148402755958
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white wizard / mind game
White Wizard
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Posted : Oct 13, 2007 08:34
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On 2007-10-12 17:17, Dogon wrote:
not sure whats happened with payments & all, but that sad, but i know Nick personally & as far my experience goes he is not going to cheat you with your money, be assured, probably later.......
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agreed ..
its beter to sort things out nicely here rather then yellin like a baby who's milk bottle has been stolen ... we guys are prof here (as u say ENERTOPIA)
i know nick persoaly also .been conected with shivlink recs from day one ,, personaly i never faced such prob or heard from othrs .( IF THERE IS A PROBLEM THER IS SOLUTION ALSO )
peace out ,, things will be fine
boom
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http://www.myspace.com/mindgame29
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Meta-Morphosis
IsraTrance Senior Member
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Posted : Oct 13, 2007 08:54
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Yes totally agree with sandy here, you did have a serious aquisition ENERTOPIA, and im sure nick and shivlink werent ripping you off if someone said they were in loss then he was right, in business people make and loose money so don't worry no one is ripping you off, i believe you'll be paid off soon
@Dj elad >> Bro you dont need to waste your time on aXis he is immature, and outspoken and ofcource a drugged out looser, (No wonder he got beaten up by lots of people lol) who's just understood the 1st obstacle of life i.e psy trance is just a hobby although he doesnt know for us music is passion, and people can make money outta anything now, its about DOING WHAT YOU LIKE !!!
bom shiva
  “What we need is the development of the Inner Spiritual man, the unique individual, whose treasure is hidden in the symbols of our mythological tradition and in man’s unconscious psych.” - CJ Jung |
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nEuro
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Posted : Oct 13, 2007 10:20
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On 2007-10-13 08:54, LSD-25 wrote:
aXis he is immature, and outspoken and ofcource a drugged out looser, (No wonder he got beaten up by lots of people lol)
bom shiva
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i aint no saint !!!
  Spread Love.
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- Kohra -
Kohra
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Posted : Oct 13, 2007 10:36
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Hey....
This is my first post on isratrance....
And basically because i spend my time either making music or playing at parties..or doing more constructive things, rather than sitting online and bitching people out...
All id like to say is that ive worked with various labels and with Shivlink ive had more than just a good experience, ive recieved payments in time for my work and my music including the immensly successful "VA Get Wet Go" recently out on Shivlink Records.
It takes quite a lot to run a label on its own and there can be many issues to deal with, let the man come to terms with it all as he is making all the efforts, and i think all the artists should get back into the studio....and not worry about all of this, im sure Nick knows how to run the label....
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Meta-Morphosis
IsraTrance Senior Member
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Posted : Oct 13, 2007 10:41
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On 2007-10-13 10:36, - Kohra - wrote:
Hey....
This is my first post on isratrance....
And basically because i spend my time either making music or playing at parties..or doing more constructive things, rather than sitting online and bitching people out...
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How cool, SHUT UP and talk on the matter we dont want to know what you do in your life, internet is for the masses so dont be judgemental, there are people who make an earning from all this, not me but yeah people !!!
@Neuro >> arey bhai what i aint no saint ??
  “What we need is the development of the Inner Spiritual man, the unique individual, whose treasure is hidden in the symbols of our mythological tradition and in man’s unconscious psych.” - CJ Jung |
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nEuro
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Posted : Oct 13, 2007 10:46
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^^^ bhaiji this doesnt looks good on forum ..... im scared now maan ......
  Spread Love.
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Meta-Morphosis
IsraTrance Senior Member
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Posted : Oct 13, 2007 10:50
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@neuro >>
  “What we need is the development of the Inner Spiritual man, the unique individual, whose treasure is hidden in the symbols of our mythological tradition and in man’s unconscious psych.” - CJ Jung |
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(Nn)
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Posted : Oct 13, 2007 12:08
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things go round n round
lol
boom
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Magox
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Oct 13, 2007 14:52
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Anytime i do biz with any professional artist, they alwayz ask for %50 up front. That's the way it's done. If you are not asking for %50 or they won't pay you %50 up front, and you do business with them and you don't get payed or payed on time, Well.....You shouldn't be too surprised. Red Flag!! The reason is because if they don't have enough to pay you the %50 up front (which is'nt that much), then they are probably working with a pretty small budget and bankroll and are depending on the success of the music that is to be released to pay you.
You live and learn. Next time ask for the %50 up front, and if you don't get it, then be prepared in the possibility that you won't get payed or payed on time. Which btw, i understand that you are trying to make people aware of some labels or organizers of their shortcomings, but you have payed a price as well, and that is that there are many people who do not like to see people complaining in such a vicious way. I'm sure some people were turned off by reading this.
As far as the labels and event organizers, it is definitely wrong to not pay. My opinion is that you shouldn't release an album or organize an event, if you don't have the funds to cover and pay everyone then you shouldn't do it... Look at the online bashing that you guyz recieve, and why? because you didn't have the necessary funds to cover yourself and now your reputation took a little hit.
And if you do take the risk, without having the necessary funds to cover yourself, and the risk doesn't go as well as planned, then don't avoid the artists or djs, or don't promise them that you will pay or pay them on a specific date unless you are %100 sure. It just makes your words..... well just words and worthless, and worthless words from people are people that i have a hard time respecting.
hope both sides learned something from this.
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Enertopia
Enertopia
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Posted : Oct 13, 2007 15:08
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As I said before, lots of people did not recieve Cds or payments, some did....
Actually, this thread was asked by several artists who did not....it wasn't only a decision of mine. It was a group of artsts who asked me too after talking about these problems.
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Enertopia
Enertopia
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Posted : Oct 13, 2007 15:10
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Moderatots, please lock the thread, Shivlink and the artists have solved some problems after this thread.
This subject is closed.
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Twisted ReAction
Twisted ReAction
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Posted : Oct 13, 2007 15:51
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Hello there everybody, this is my first post on isratrance regarding bitchy topics here...i have worked and still working with many labels around the globe and have released some killer V.A's and 2 albums, and yeah there is some labels that i didnt get the copy even ! BUT what i can say is that i work with Nick for some time now and i have never had bad expierence. I got all the payments, also helped him to pass lots of payments in Israel to various artists and also sent many PingPong cds around.Personally sent to kamasutrance, itp, nitro, cortex's copy is still waiting for him when he is back from tour. U ppl should relax and stop talking shit here...every artist is getting paid on shivlink, i agree that there is a little delay, but there is some serious problems with transfers from india, thats why its taking little delay. Last time the money came to me from england..that says that Nick has to transfer to england first, it takes time, then ppl there need to transfer me..also time. But its delay of few weeks not a YEAR or no payment at all. So calm DOWN , u dont want - dont work with Shivlink (beleive me theres always be ppl who want to) cause Shivlink doing KILLER releases! And by the way everyone got payed so pls say SORRY and close this fucking thread.
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