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Sharing my sectrets if you help me with song structrure.
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Freeflow
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Jan 20, 2009 13:13
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Np 
Film Scoring Essentials
Basic Melody In Songwriting
Musical Stress
those i recommend and watch his video tutorials, if you think a little you can use those methods for trance, like the in the "Harmonic Movement in the Moving Bridge"
cheers
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segment 7
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Posted : Jan 20, 2009 13:47
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To be honest all electronic music is going to have some sort of predetermined structure, because the idea of releasing electronic music (in most cases, given not all of them) is so that people can mix them, and mixing would be near impossible without some sort of structure.
As far as all this fuss about secrets is concerned, im sure we all have at least some production secrets. If we all shared every nugget of production knowledge we had tracks would become too similar and lose even more individuality. Even greats like cosmosis have secrets, for instance cosmosis bass secrets tutorial, which is a paid release. Conny is just exchanging knowledge for knowledge rather than money for knowledge. Obviously i think we should share our knowledge but if he wants to keep his fair play, so long as he does share with those who share with him.
As far as your arrangments are concerned conny, i found the best way for me to learn was to build a basic 3-4 minute kick bass section then the just play around. Try experimenting by rearranging the kick/bass/hihats, and then just toy around with different synth patterns etc. I found it was all about just playing around and finding the kinda style you like.
I look forward to checking that link out later freeflow
Hope that helps, ben |
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 20, 2009 14:51
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i have the secret for the very good production and i m gonna share it with you ,try to make evryhting sound like shit with your eq, i mean it should really sound like crap ,a bit like dark trance then do the oposite ,just reverse all the settings on the eqs lol  |
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splinter
Splinter / Kode Six
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Posted : Jan 21, 2009 04:57
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Well from my point of view...
INTRO PLLAIN BEAT,INTRODUCE A FEW PERCUSSIONS,THE INTRODUCE HI HAT,THEN INTRODUCE LEADS AND GO ON THEN BREAKDOWN AND REPEAT.
But thats very basic i don't actually do that anymore....well sometimes,depends how i feel.
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Obelizk
Amoeba
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Posted : Jan 21, 2009 05:02
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What do you guys mean by "Astrix or 'Israeli' formula"? |
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orgytime
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Posted : Jan 21, 2009 14:25
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1 intro
2 kick + bass + percussions + some song reminding tones
3 break + pad
4 kick+ bass + percussions + pad
5 lead incoming
6 lead + bass
6 kick+ bass (same bass like with leadmelody) + song reminding tones
7 intro again + some reminding other tones
8 rising leadmelody2 out of the intro
9 lead2 + bass (same bass like with leadmelody) + song reminding tones
10 outro
thats what i think from his structure, correct me if im wrong (but its not that simple as it sounds xD )
cheers
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