| Author
|
SHAME PSYTE> PART II
|
fReAkY
Started Topics :
7
Posts :
30
Posted : Nov 19, 2003 19:40
|
Hi all Trance dancers Im here to show you what we think its fair. I post this post on hte Brasil section and the moderater Luiz Paulo did not have positev opinian and erares it.
We thought Isratrance is the best place for this beause they did post IVASION OF ISRAELIS not in a good way.
I ask for ssliihar for the modoraters and hope everyone can give there opinion and that it can be positev if not be confortabel to answer it in your respected way.
-bOOM- trancers we see in a dance floor.
-RESPECT-
First of all, i m here to represent my friends, djs and artistes from Israel! And if they excuse me, i may speak for all Israel djs and artists!
They came to me showing what www.psyte.com.br wrote about Invasion of Israelis... and came up to me because they dont speak portugues, friendly asked for me to do something.
I am here not just because they asked me, but to leave something straight and to remmember what is Israel Ttrance to the writer.
So I found the isratrance a perfect place to answer and to show what a shame the PSYTE FAMILY. I really want to responde only to the writer but since the PSYTE let this happen, that they take full responsability for this!
We should thank the Israel artists for keeping the trance from generation to generation. To remmember, the trance has more then 10 years old in Israel. ok!
Most of the new skills, came from Israel artists. Like I said we should thank then for the beatyfull song we, YOU hear in trance parties.
Each artist has their unique ssstilera sound. You cant try to forget about the Israel full on, and try to find a full on, on a Europiane sound. Sorry no such thing, even if it was the other way, around.
PSYTE said : QUALTY!!! I wont bother, answering that. Also that a lot of artists not Israeli has new things to show...but no, they are stuck with Israel trance....and for exempel, Astrix is going to play for the 3rd time and Pixel for the 2nd and ......
To answer this: First of all, they are stuck with Israel Trance because it has QUALTY...if it didnt, it wont stuck, nobody stupid. Second, like the artist not Israeli whats to show there new work, Why not Israel artists also show there new work playing AS MUCH TIME the public wants. Even if the same artist, plays in Brasil for more then 10 times in a year, it will always be with new fresh work. We are speaking about professinals!!! ok, all artist i know, work there ass making killer good music to show around the world, when he makes a new visite to any contry. So if Astrix goes for the 3rd time, its beacuse his music is KILLER. Same to all Israel artist that goes for more then once to Brasil, to show their NEW work.
The PSYTE also ask why Raja RAm played seek and destroy? DJ SET was made so the artist can play any music that the felling tells to play
He played seek and destroyED because for sure he knows this track blast in Brasil and why not play what a Brasilian likes to a Brasilian public? He played thinking about that they are going to feel and love and not because its sick and destroy. And if he goes to the party by bus, train, HELICOPTER its because he can!!! He has the power and the writer can stand there wishing the same.
Psyte clame that Israel djs bring public and money. NO, they bring Stilera sound and thats where the public and the money comes ok. They also said that some party promoters are cumplaining about the high price and no professinalism on the live. First Brasil is no good going to play for the money. Comparing to other country, they dont pay half of Japan por exemple has respect and pay. I know that the dollar is not good, so they always manage to put there price low because they understand the situation. What they want to pay for an artist? 500 dollers and sleep in the street??? And about the no professionalism on the live.... Open your eyes and look for a good live!!! A lot of blasting LIVES out there and PSYTE wants to blame LIVES in general .... you guys dont deserve to hear good LIVE after this coment.
Psyte THINKS that many parties are comercial and they BLAME ISrael Trance for this. YES they are comercial because you made it comercial. Its your public! DONT BLAME ISRAEL TRANCE FOR THIS mistake that you , let it happen. SHAME ON YOU!
PSYTE, Like i said before you should thank THE ISRAELI INVASION and not TRY to make a protest against Artist who work more then you do sitting your ass on the computer writing this invasion bla bla bla artical.
IF YOU, PSYTE think that in any circustance I desrespected you....
YOU PSYTE, DESRESPECTED ALL ISRAEL DJS AND ARTIST!!!! AND asked for this kind of desrespect.
to resume: MORE RESPECT!!!
THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU SPEAK!!! 
-bOOm-
-RESPECT-
sorry for my english to the isratance readers.!
|
|
|
fReAkY
Started Topics :
7
Posts :
30
Posted : Nov 20, 2003 06:08
|
nobody, post 
its ok, dont use name its no good. some times people dont understand... what we say
-bOOm-
.....................
DANCE LIKE YOU NEVER DANCED. NO BODY IS LOOKING. |
|
|
|
nobody_3
Inactive User
Started Topics :
13
Posts :
1177
Posted : Nov 20, 2003 20:54
|
"Each artist has their unique ssstilera sound. You cant try to forget about the Israel full on, and try to find a full on, on a Europiane sound. Sorry no such thing,"
Thank god for that  - no offense to the Isralies here.
Sorry mate but your post is in my opinion not that easy to understand and it's a big mistake to think that Israel is responsible for keeping the trance scene alive alone.... Many other countries hereunder Northern Europe have had a trance scene just as long as Israel.. Don't forget Germany which pratically invented Trance (after inspiration from American early house aka Detroit ect. and acidhouse from UK)...
Maybe Brazil need to open up their eyes a little to other genres than full-on?  |
|
|
|
fReAkY
Started Topics :
7
Posts :
30
Posted : Nov 20, 2003 23:28
|
I thank you for understanding, my situation and point, I mean I already had shitie anwers for this, from people that dodnt give a shit. For me RESPECT. Thants it.
Keep up the good work, Im passing in swiss for 9 horuse when go back to brasil, maybe there is a party foe these 9 horas...catch that for me mate...can u check it for me on the 13 of 12.
Its us,. lets hope Brasilzian can open there eyes and see what an good , qualty artistes i have for them.
I Love BRasil, I cry just to think the things a left behinde, when its up to this, just makes me sad.
=bOOm-
-RESPEXT-
SOORY MY FRIEND FOR THE ENGLESH, its only for the [people who have pation. thanks for reading. |
|
|
|
shahar
IsraTrance Team
Started Topics :
155
Posts :
2035
Posted : Nov 22, 2003 09:16
|
I'm not sure I understood you very well Freaky.
But if I get it right, some people are tired of the typical Israeli full on sound that seems to be in all trance parties in Brazil and they wrote about it in some Brazillian trance site.
Why do you see that as a problem?
If some people want to hear something else in their parties, how do they let the organizers know about it if they don't write about it in the trance sites?
Where's the shame?
 ---------------------------------------------
"Be the change you want to see in the world!"
M.K. Gandhi
"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
Aldous Huxley
|
|
|
|
fReAkY
Started Topics :
7
Posts :
30
Posted : Nov 22, 2003 15:55
|
hi sharar, you know i will try tohelp you understand my point ok, in Brasil my loveing land, many thing are sad in trance, the people that has no limits, police has to break in, etc.... I understand that this happens any where ok, so if some one that has no idea how its working to see, here in my house, 2 studio all the time blasting for killer music, while people just dont give a respect for it and..... so the main point is, there has to be 2 sides so the brasilian can decide.
They need to not forget the respect, it will help them self while they live....abd the SHAME comes because they love israeli music ok, but htey say its this and that, so it ok, to give your opinian, since it doesnt hurt no ones job, ok.
i hope you understand my point here now, fell free i will answer how many, questions u want.
-CHEERS=
-RESPECT- |
|
|
|
Electronic Bungalow
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
12
Posts :
115
Posted : Nov 22, 2003 19:00
|
Well, the Israelis have a fundamental role on the world trance scene, no question about it. But, at the same time Israel may be considered the biggest trance scene around, with more artists, producers, etc, the bigger the chance they also have more poor quality productions, labels, etc. It's obvious and rather clear for me that Israel has superb artists & projects, say, some 10, 15, of them. But it has a lot, and I mean a LOT of poor quality, below average producers & productions.
One may dislike Infected Mushroom, Astrix, Astral Projection, BLT, Moshe Kenan (Xerox, in my opinion the best israeli producer nowadays). To name just a few. You may dislike each and everyone out of them; But they've created their own & unique styles, they've set trends which have been copied over & over.
Those styles and trends have been copied "ad nauseam"and pasted by lesser artists. Take Astrix for instance. Avi's productions were remixed, cut & pasted, or bluntly copied by dozens of mediocrities around in & out of Israel. These "artists" have no value whatsoever in ISRAEL, and it is outrageous that we brazilians spend our money to see these template collectors play their shit in here. Believe me, shit considered, we are able to produce better shit for a fraction of their price, with no airlines involved.
This whole year of 2003 I've seen all Israelis that I wanted to see ( and some that I didn't) athe the Solaris Dance. I still miss Astral Projection. As for the rest, I wouldn't bother spending a single cent to watch them. Many....and I really mean MANY israelis that are coming to Brazil, just because they're Israelis aren't worth the food they eat. They are plain trash.
So don't come in here with your mythologic rethoric about Israelis. Let's not be like cattle mooeing & booeing at the tune we hear. Allow us to let this tune flow into our brains where it can be better understood.
|
|
|
|
Electronic Bungalow
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
12
Posts :
115
Posted : Nov 22, 2003 19:04
|
|
And don't waste your precious time making us buy your opinions. Make it much more valuable selling your agency's artists. |
|
|
|
fReAkY
Started Topics :
7
Posts :
30
Posted : Nov 23, 2003 01:24
|
SEM PALAVRAS!!! = NO WORDS!!
TODA RABA = THANK YOU WERY MUCH FOR YOUR RESPECT FOR ALL ISRAEL DJS AND ARTIST. I MEAN, JUST GIVE TIME THAT THINGS CAN BE STABEL, AND DONT FORGET THE RESPECT FOR EVERYONE, I MEAN FOR ORGANIZERS THAT ARE FAIR IN THE LINE UP, AND IN GENERAL, LIKE TRIBE/SOLARIS IN MY OPINIAN. SO BRAZILIAN, HOPE ONE DAY SHOW MY JOB, AND MAKE IT IN SOME SPOT YOUR TASTE. I AM NOT HERE FOR THE MONEY AND NAME, IM HERE FOR THEM, THAT I SEE WORK THERE ASS OFF FOR YOU GUYS IN ONES A TIME IN THE LIFE FELL GOOD ABOUT YOUR SELF. THE ORGANIZARES ARE HERE TO HELP IT COME TRUE BYE PAUING THE DOLLAR THAT EACH ARTISTE DESERVES.
AND FOR THE PERSON THAT JUST POSTED THE MESSAGE ABOVE, I MEAN I RESPECT YOU AND I DONT GIVE A S. ABOUT WHAT YOU DID AND DODNT DO IN YOUR LIFE, SUCESS FOR ALL OF US.
-BOOM-
-RESPECT-
-NATALI...- |
|
|
|
shahar
IsraTrance Team
Started Topics :
155
Posts :
2035
Posted : Nov 23, 2003 07:46
|
Yeah, just leave the CAPS LOCK alone please. In the Internet it means shouting, and we don't want ppl shouting in here (or anywhere else for that matter).
---------------------------------------------
"Be the change you want to see in the world!"
M.K. Gandhi
"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
Aldous Huxley
|
|
|
|
fReAkY
Started Topics :
7
Posts :
30
Posted : Nov 23, 2003 08:07
|
sorry, pretend its all small, i just thought that everthing is importante.
gor give may CAPS LOG...wont happen again.
-RESPECT- |
|
|
|
|
