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moki
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Posted : Jul 28, 2009 16:58
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Axis, i wil show you a very nice book about the beauty of sex today as you come to visit me:))) - it is called the silent orgasm and is a very deep thing. you just reminded me of that:) very philosophical ...
actually my opinion is that only idiots think that sex is something to be looked down upon. god made too much idiots:). i dont see any significant connection other than the fact that those ppl have grown up with the bible in their breast. put a robe and start preaching in the right place please!!! they are so fucked up to think that sexuality is less intelligent than any other form of human expression.
sex is the most difficult science of all. believe me, i had to do with lots of sciences but sex is what includes them all together. and it is not a coinscidence that the prostitutes were actually the most intelligent and gifted women earlier in the history of mankind. the nowadays prostitutes, incl the whole bunch of intellectually insufficient puppets of the star artists , have nothing to do with this science. earlier only the most intelligent women could do it the way it should be - and a prostitute or geisha or whatever the mankind had, was the most respected job of all.
you need even knowledge of mathematics and proportions to do it right....and philosophy, languages, literature, art of getting the interest of someone through speaking, aestestics , colour therapy, food and entheogens - it was all a part of it earlier.
i am so tired of ppl who have missunderstood what is sex. and i find the porn industry a real disaster too.
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jul 28, 2009 17:11
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to me it has nothing to do with mathematics.Its communication between spirits by real love.
If you harmonize with hearts and souls than you can reach the divine and above or around:-) .There is no formula there is more the divine the almost undescribible.
Simplicity is a good key to the mystery.
What prostitutes do is probalby mathematic but than again it all lies in individual views which I respect.
To me intime love is a private ceremony with private secrets which stay for sure in not a single book on earth ^^
If you got the real partner than mind expanding love can be intense but not really difficult from my expirience.
Cheers
ps where I still live I see atleast one time each day prostitutes - they are divine like all creatures with hearts.
The porno industry is only dirty to me.
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moki
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Posted : Aug 2, 2009 01:05
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btw with mathematics i meant the rhythm.
you know that in tantra there are some recommendable rules about the rhythm of breathing and moving. so i was talking only about tantra in this case. but it is also the only thing that interests me, thats why i am experimenting with solibacy as a border experience....and not interested in "sex". the "sex" can be done by many other ppl other than me, i have other interests. 
and simplicity is beautiful, you are right. but i found out that it is more ttractive in an earlier stage of life. and the older you get, the more complicated your sexuality.
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moki
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Posted : Aug 8, 2009 12:29
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last message because i think i promised to post the video ( not sure)
if someone wants to see the interview with fuck for forest made two week ago - contact me personally through my website contact data please. i am moving towards closing this website to a very small group of ppl only through passwords. if zou dont belong to my list of close group recepients of my newsletter and rss news, then you can send me an email and you will get ( may be) a password to the closed places on my private site.
for the website of my firm it all fukntions the same way but everything will be paid from 01.sep. no trance in there. but you can buy a few videos though - per internet or iphone. icl some very sexy ones.
good bye and lot of fun with the sex theme. i will not lose more time.
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Nivlem
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Posted : Aug 8, 2009 21:43
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On 2009-06-19 19:09:48, demonsinmyheadz wrote:
Hi guys, I'm new round here, new to psytrance too....
Friends told me for years that I must come to a trance festival, that it was Utopia, that anything goes, that people are warm and friendly, all respectful of each other and the planet.....
...so I went to Boom last summer...
Probably the most frustrating experience of my life; when you're a single guy, surrounded by all those women each more beautiful than the next,all smiles but with a definate KEEP YOUR DISTANCE inscribed on their faces, the openness I was promised?It seemed like everyone was having fun....with THEIR friends (no need to talk to other people when you're already in the "global familly")
Even drugs don't help; how many sleepless nights (or afternoons rather) trying to sleep with my head full of suntanned female bodies writhing on the dancefloor but not on me.....
It all seemed so...closed, so snooty, so hypocrite....so frigid...
So I said to myself, there must be reasons for this; Okay, sex is out, since AIDS; even though we all know how to do it safely..
Maybe women just don't want it (this can be explained in part by the delhibelly you generally get at any festival, and I don't need to draw diagrams to show why men can still get turned on enough while squeezing their ass cheeks, but women need to open their legs .....)
But what about free love?What about the best free legal high you can get on this planet??
Can you imagine an orgasm on the dancefloor?
Why is all this so frowned upon?
Why is it okay to propose coke to someone, but not your body?
Why do women in trance dress to be sexy, but don't want?(don't tell me they're just keeping cool)
Why am I gonna be treated as a pervert, even though (from reading posts)you guys seem to think about nothing else?
Can someone explain???
Comments from women welcome....
There you go; first post ever,maybe last psyfestival ever, unless it gets less lonely...
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Okay, so the essence of what you're saying is that you went to your first psy festival and are dissapointed because you didn't get laid and you probably won't go to any more psy events unless it looks like you'll get laid?
Well, broski, I think do yourself and the scene a favor and don't go to another one if that is your goal. It may have escaped your attention, but there happens to be this thing called music at a psy event. Maybe think about getting on the dancefloor and connecting with people through the dance. |
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moki
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Posted : Aug 8, 2009 23:16
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now you told him not to go to festivals and this might hurt him a lot because he just showed us a part of his very inner life as a male.
but this was not meant to hurt i guess.
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may be because they are mostly on drugs and it helps them experience the drug as more self centered thing that makes their ego stronger and makes them feel good cause of being sexy. but as they are not concerned about other creatures while on drugs, they are not so interested in the love but in the ego.
this is what i suppose, but i dont know, cause i am not on drugs. but i think this is the thing. does it hurt you that they are naked? i dont understand....is it better if they are not? is it better for you?
to me, i am always travelling very very far. every case where someone wants me to talk or whatever - i turn my head and continue to dance. if i need a fuck, i prefer to do it in another place. and honestly i have sent so many ppl to hell while annoying me while dancing.
actually this is exactly the reason why i stopped going as well. and it was much worse in my young years. males are just from another planet.
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toogoodforyou
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Posted : Aug 9, 2009 00:13
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may be because they are mostly on drugs and it helps them experience the drug as more self centered thing that makes their ego stronger and makes them feel good cause of being sexy. but as they are not concerned about other creatures while on drugs, they are not so interested in the love but in the ego.
this is what i suppose, but i dont know, cause i am not on drugs. but i think this is the thing. does it hurt you that they are naked? i dont understand....is it better if they are not? is it better for you?
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Maybe they already have their boyfriends or husbands or whoever along with them at the festival?? So basically most of them might not be attending the festival with the intention of having sex with some random guy.
The sexy clothes are just to get attention. Most girls love to get attention.
Anyway, if you suck with girls and can't get girls outside the psy scene you probably wont be able to get girls at the festivals either. |
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Nivlem
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Posted : Aug 9, 2009 00:49
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On 2009-08-08 23:16, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
now you told him not to go to festivals and this might hurt him a lot because he just showed us a part of his very inner life as a male.
but this was not meant to hurt i guess.
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may be because they are mostly on drugs and it helps them experience the drug as more self centered thing that makes their ego stronger and makes them feel good cause of being sexy. but as they are not concerned about other creatures while on drugs, they are not so interested in the love but in the ego.
this is what i suppose, but i dont know, cause i am not on drugs. but i think this is the thing. does it hurt you that they are naked? i dont understand....is it better if they are not? is it better for you?
to me, i am always travelling very very far. every case where someone wants me to talk or whatever - i turn my head and continue to dance. if i need a fuck, i prefer to do it in another place. and honestly i have sent so many ppl to hell while annoying me while dancing.
actually this is exactly the reason why i stopped going as well. and it was much worse in my young years. males are just from another planet.
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Well spoken. I just hope he goes and "gets" the transcendental aspect of the music. I think it's just my age and perhaps my married status that makes it easier for me to go to psy events and not focus on the punany. It seems that if this is your focus, you are missing on on an opportunity to go into hyperspace, with or without drugs. |
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moki
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Posted : Aug 9, 2009 21:34
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yes a completely agree with you.
just wanted to say that a person can be really hurt particularly in forum in a case like that: because there are ppl who really open their inner feelings sometimes in forums ( i think that this post is very typical for a male who just opened a door to a place of his psyche that he usually doesnt open in public) and after that it hurts them a lot:). and it is not cool to hurt males in this way:), because then they close the door for ever:). the same with females actually. sex hurts.
but there are ppl in the forums who are only with this goal in the forums - to look for someone like that and attack them while they are psychically naked.
whatever it is, i am making this mistake also very often. that is why it is very essential to stay away from these forums. especially what sex is concerned. i need to go further. see you somewhere in the hyperspace. with or without party. best greets to you.
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mk47
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Posted : Aug 10, 2009 07:04
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On 2009-08-08 23:16, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
and honestly i have sent so many ppl to hell while annoying me while dancing.
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how ?
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moki
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Posted : Aug 10, 2009 09:14
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not with these words of course. i almost never use such words in pronounciation except for the forums:))). just told them to go please. it is unbearable. always ppl on drugs or alkohol sticking to you, touching you, asking you where you get your energy to dance. buah. i am from the ppl who really enjoy going to parties without their better half - it is much better and you dont have to take care for anyone while tripping. but it is very unbearable in the last year. after someone dragged me and closed me in a toilet at the last party, i definitely understood i am not for these parties and never went again.
whatever, now i said more than enough in this topic. i stop or a mod will come soon to tell me to stop hehehehe. i go to the beach. everyone goes to ozora, i dont. enough of this. i dont even remember how i got to speak in this topic. oh yes, fuck for forest and axis mundi. but you shoudl really check the interview with FFF, at least this one as a last one for free on my website. it will be my good bye farewell as well. just a few days more on the beach and then i post this very last free thing for you to see . after that i had enough of this pathetic scene.
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EtherealMotive
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Posted : Aug 10, 2009 20:15
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"Hi guys, I'm new round here, new to psytrance too....
Friends told me for years that I must come to a trance festival, that it was Utopia, that anything goes, that people are warm and friendly, all respectful of each other and the planet.....
...so I went to Boom last summer...
Probably the most frustrating experience of my life; when you're a single guy, surrounded by all those women each more beautiful than the next,all smiles but with a definate KEEP YOUR DISTANCE inscribed on their faces, the openness I was promised?It seemed like everyone was having fun....with THEIR friends (no need to talk to other people when you're already in the "global familly")
Even drugs don't help; how many sleepless nights (or afternoons rather) trying to sleep with my head full of suntanned female bodies writhing on the dancefloor but not on me.....
It all seemed so...closed, so snooty, so hypocrite....so frigid...
So I said to myself, there must be reasons for this; Okay, sex is out, since AIDS; even though we all know how to do it safely..
Maybe women just don't want it (this can be explained in part by the delhibelly you generally get at any festival, and I don't need to draw diagrams to show why men can still get turned on enough while squeezing their ass cheeks, but women need to open their legs .....)
But what about free love?What about the best free legal high you can get on this planet??
Can you imagine an orgasm on the dancefloor?
Why is all this so frowned upon?
Why is it okay to propose coke to someone, but not your body?
Why do women in trance dress to be sexy, but don't want?(don't tell me they're just keeping cool)
Why am I gonna be treated as a pervert, even though (from reading posts)you guys seem to think about nothing else?
Can someone explain???
Comments from women welcome....
There you go; first post ever,maybe last psyfestival ever, unless it gets less lonely... "
Your first problem is, your going there to pick up women. It sounds to me like you "expect" them to bow down to you when you enter the perimeter. Psy-trance women or more so "conscious spiritual women" see past your mentality towards women. They want respect. You ask about "Where's the free love?", well your contradicting it with your expectations of "sex" and mainstream game playing. |
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Aug 10, 2009 21:53
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On 2009-08-10 09:14, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
enough of this. i dont even remember how i got to speak in this topic. oh yes, fuck for forest and axis mundi.
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just a few days more on the beach and then i post this very last free thing for you to see . after that i had enough of this pathetic scene.
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Whoa, hold on there. Firstly, you might want to rethink externalizing your reasons for posting on forums... as if you have any kind of self control over your desire to repeatedly post on forums, making a habit of posting two, three, four, five + times in a row.
Ultimately everyone is responsible for the things they say, on forums or otherwise, including me, including you.
Secondly, if you have a problem with me responding directly to you in public conversations, I can respect that, but don't bring my name up offhandedly in discussions for no reason and with no context.
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On 2009-08-08 23:16, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
and honestly i have sent so many ppl to hell while annoying me while dancing.
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Thirdly, even if this is only an expression (maybe next time try saying what you really mean), just who do you think you are, anyway? You're not any better or holier than anyone else. You think these people at parties are purposely out to piss you off? Do you expect anything more from people in an altered state of mind?
Have you ever stopped to think that there may actually be a problem with your own personal expectations?
Fourthly, it's unsurprising to me that people begin acting the way they do towards you after repeatedly and patiently reading post after post of...
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And numerous other general condescension towards people that would simply be redundant to bother quoting. If you're going to be that way towards groups of people, eventually they will start returning the favor. Just sayin'
If you have a problem with the scene, that's fine... a lot of people do, but I'm fairly certain that people grow quickly tired of being generalized and ridiculed by you, and don't care to read post after post by you describing about how pathetic we all are, how we're all not worth your precious time (even though you can't seem to stay away from posting on forums like these) and how we all deserve eternal damnation based on your personal annoyance.
Of course, you're as welcome to post on here and other forums as much as the next person, but seriously.... let's get real for a second here. If posting on forums like these is such a huge bother to you, if it's such a waste of your time, it's simple... don't post. I think most people on here give you a surprising amount of patience and understanding in the face of your apparently ultra-low opinions of most of us. At least try to respect that.
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demoniac
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moki
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Posted : Aug 11, 2009 00:40
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)) horny people....
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