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Set the note of a kick ?
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 31, 2008 14:03
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On 2008-10-31 13:11, pipe&slippers wrote:
PoM, spend some time tuning your kick drum to the bassline or vise versa, hear the difference, and make your own conclusions on whether its useless or not, cause from the sounds of it, you've never had a go.
Why do you think drummers tune their bass drums?
How do you know if "they" (who ever they are) care to tune their kicks or not?
If you think its useless to tune the two parts that make up your bottom end, fair enough.
But it has nothing to do with mixing with numbers and eyes.
It is because people mix with their ears and spend a lot of time trying to identify the small details that will make the biggest difference, that they pick up on things like that.
Peace out.
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i agree with all you said i tune my drums sounds too ,but it s using your ears , i think ppl shouldnt care about what the frequency of the kick is ,then you ll think like i cut my bassline in A at 55 hz cause it s the fondamentel ? that not a good way to see mixing , you see what i mean |
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Medea
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Posted : Oct 31, 2008 22:43
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Okay. So what if i want to make a bassline playing at the same time as kick. I guess kick and bass shouldn't fight for frequencies very hardly, yes? So how they can be on the same fundamental frequency, and don't fight for it? I'm confused 
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Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 31, 2008 22:52
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On 2008-10-31 14:03, PoM wrote:
i agree with all you said i tune my drums sounds too ,but it s using your ears , i think ppl shouldnt care about what the frequency of the kick is ,then you ll think like i cut my bassline in A at 55 hz cause it s the fondamentel ? that not a good way to see mixing , you see what i mean
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If you think people should not care what frequency the kick is playing at, why do you care enough to tune your own drum sounds?
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Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 31, 2008 23:19
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On 2008-10-31 13:40, psychowave wrote:
well...at end...you ear is the only method to identify the kick tune? uping the octave, fine tuning, and back down a octave...
Dont have a more precise method?
Times ago...i read a article about this...when you find the note of kick by a spectrum analysis..but i don´t find that now...anyone know about this?
Thanks
Natan
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Get a snapshot of the tail of the kick, do a spectrum analysis on that and see the frequency that is peaking.
Or use maths if you don't trust analyzers: identify the period of the cycle that holds the bottom end, inverse that and you'll get the frequency.
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Medea
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Posted : Nov 1, 2008 11:10
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On 2008-10-31 22:43, Medea wrote:
Okay. So what if i want to make a bassline playing at the same time as kick. I guess kick and bass shouldn't fight for frequencies very hardly, yes? So how they can be on the same fundamental frequency, and don't fight for it? I'm confused
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So, any ideas about this?
Btw, yesterday I checked the track i'm currently workin on and didn'r succed in defining the pitch of the bassdrum, even when transposing it one and two octaves up. (It's not typical psytrance pitched-sine kick, but more minimal-techno one, clicky and dirty, maybe that's the reason.) However, when piched higher or lower, it sounded only worser in my case =)
Seems that it's much easier to create kicks with predifined root key, just making a sinewave of certain frequency and pitch-bending it, leaving a short area of the root frequency untouched, to keep the key, and then layer it with some another kick if needed, if you need more color.
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Medea
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Posted : Nov 1, 2008 11:18
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 1, 2008 15:44
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On 2008-10-31 22:52, pipe&slippers wrote:
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On 2008-10-31 14:03, PoM wrote:
i agree with all you said i tune my drums sounds too ,but it s using your ears , i think ppl shouldnt care about what the frequency of the kick is ,then you ll think like i cut my bassline in A at 55 hz cause it s the fondamentel ? that not a good way to see mixing , you see what i mean
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If you think people should not care what frequency the kick is playing at, why do you care enough to tune your own drum sounds?
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cause it doesn t mean it s at the right frequency it sound the best imo , thinking about frequency and numbers just narrow your mind for mixing, i m 90% sure most producers with a good sound don t give a fuck about what fequency the kick is, they just trust their ears. |
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