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Sending Tracks to Labels

Lithium
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Posted : Sep 16, 2005 14:41
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On 2005-09-16 03:53, NikC wrote:
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U.K. Copyright law states that as soon as the work of the artist has been finished it is copyrighted by them...
All you need to do to prove it's yours is show the original song file.

This is the law!






i wish it was like that everywhere           
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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Sep 16, 2005 17:19
Make sure you get as much advance as you can. Even if you get 50% later, you'll barely make any money, especially if it is a compilation, since there are almost no psy-trance singles out today and CD sales have taken a dive.           Me>You
sex stile
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Posted : Sep 19, 2005 08:50
I agree with all you peaple,i like this topic because i am on that now...triyng new labels around...
i have my question for these topic.....

Can someone tell me if it is better to send a cd demo to a label on wav or mp3 format?





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Divine-Soul
cytopia
Cytopia.org

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Posted : Sep 19, 2005 09:52
It depends:

Send as Mp3 if you dont trust the label, but then you might as well send a WAV with some blank spaces. If a label likes it they will ask for the 24bit mixdown for mastering anyway.

And with us, www.cytopia.org we are able to receive uploads of mp3 or WAV on our site, and sometimes i also listen to people's music sent to me as a link to a mp3 download, just to get general idea of tracks.

I also realised that labels dont usually even respond to artists when a track is bad, we try to at least give feedback but certainly understand that any label that receives alot of music for them this might be too much. I would say 80% of the music we are sent is below the mark in terms of production quality.

So everyone out there who wants to be released, production quality is very important. No matter how good a composition, a label and mastering engineer cannot do much with it unless the production is good. Having said that its cool there are people out there having a god time making music.
fregle
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Posted : Sep 19, 2005 17:18
thanks a lot u guys!! i'm just starting to think about a demo... But i only have 2 tracks that are up to scratch to send as a demo... Is that enough or does it have to be more? Also, both tracks are wildly different, one is pure full-on, the other is more like darkpsy, does that matter?

and then smething else i noticed, "If a label likes it they will ask for the 24bit mixdown for mastering anyway.". is that a necessity? cuz i still work in 16bit (don't shoot me please...). Will that be a problem?

tnx again...
14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Sep 19, 2005 17:31
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On 2005-09-19 17:18, FREGLE wrote:
and then smething else i noticed, "If a label likes it they will ask for the 24bit mixdown for mastering anyway.". is that a necessity? cuz i still work in 16bit (don't shoot me please...). Will that be a problem?

tnx again...


No.           Me>You
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Posted : Sep 20, 2005 22:51
wow great info thnx guys
Rishi
Rishi

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Posted : Sep 22, 2005 13:18
well dont shoot me , but i was informed that for mastering its almost essential that the file is atleast 24 bits wave .. and latter they dither it for 16 bit , but the dithering itself is preventing the loss of too many freq's ???? is this crazy .. or am i just an idiot in using more space on my projects in cubase producing in 32 bit float ?            3ó BooOoM ShanKaRA 3ó
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sex stile
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Posted : Sep 22, 2005 16:32
.....Cytopia i understand....i have a new project at Brasil(fullon) and have no labes at all..and soon i will send it to some ones...But thanks the advise anyway...











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shamantrixx


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Posted : Sep 25, 2005 13:30
imo topics like this one have NOTHING to do with "equipment and music creation" since the topic is "how 2 sell my track 2 label" and that topic is well covered with the art of trade and marketing.

so I guess someones expirience will not help others. Somebody can send only 1 CD and release it on that 1st label he chose because he send a really good track. Others may have sent more than 100 copys to any egzisting label in the world until one finaly releases the track.

Question is will you be satisfied when X label release your track on a VA that will be sold in 15 copyes worldwide along with other artist you find not to be the best example of how you should and want your tracks to sound to.

If the goal is 2 release the track rather then make a good one that will "release it self" - than this is the wrong place 2 ask this kind of question I guess.

But if the goal of your work is the music it self, then it will be enough to send it 2 just one label. Even if they don't need it now or not covering that genre - they'll most likely know where 2 send you with that killer track

ps: it's hard likely that any artist will stole the track from you unless you're making the music that sounds just like that very artist. I guess that would be a complete waste of time anyway so... make your music unique even at risk it will not get released           "It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"

Albert Einstein, speaking about his theory of relativity
makus
Overdream

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Posted : Sep 25, 2005 14:51
2shamantrixx
"so I guess someones expirience will not help others" - so you guess wrong. it does.

how do you know when you are ready to release? how and when should you know "i have pro music so 1 cd copy is enough to send to random label and get release"
sending a demo to track is a very important process for musician. especially a new one, searching for the first release (as i'm expierensing this now and know that). friend won't tell you how good you are - that's bullshit =) only label can give you the last word.
thats why such topics are usefull and have more to musicmaking then to art of selling things.

          
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makus
Overdream

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Posted : Sep 25, 2005 14:56
2shamantrixx
"so I guess someones expirience will not help others" - so you guess wrong. it does.

how do you know when you are ready to release? how and when should you know "i have pro music so 1 cd copy is enough to send to random label and get release"
sending a demo track to a label is a very important process for musician. especially a new one, searching for the first release (as i'm expierensing this now and know that). friend won't tell you how good you are - that's bullshit =) only label can give you the last word (f-word?).
thats why such topics are usefull and have more to musicmaking then to art of selling things.          
www.overdreamstudio.com
makus
Overdream

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Posted : Sep 25, 2005 15:01
oops sorry, please delete my FIRST post           
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NikC
BeatNik

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Posted : Sep 25, 2005 15:19
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On 2005-09-22 13:18, Rishi wrote:
well dont shoot me , but i was informed that for mastering its almost essential that the file is atleast 24 bits wave .. and latter they dither it for 16 bit , but the dithering itself is preventing the loss of too many freq's ???? is this crazy .. or am i just an idiot in using more space on my projects in cubase producing in 32 bit float ?





I agree here...
Let me give you something to consider:
You may have samples that are in 16-bit, but if you are running vst's and vsti's (which aren't sample based) they will be running 32-bit - e.g. in cubase. This means that if you mix it down at 16-bit the vst's will be compromised... And if you mix it down at 32-bit they won't.
It gives the mastering engineer alot more headroom to work with, and it's a much better sound.
Try to work with samples 24-bit and above though (particularly if you're bouncing down sections of the mix) as they will invariably sound better and lead to a more professional sound.           www.myspace.com/beat_nik
Rishi
Rishi

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Posted : Sep 25, 2005 15:42
thanks NiKc , will continue with the high resolutions            3ó BooOoM ShanKaRA 3ó
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