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tsab/psynorama
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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 05:03
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i have a question about sending out tracks out to different record labels. For example i just finished a track and i want to send it out, should i send my track to a label and wait for their answer and then send it out to a different label, or send out the track to all favourable labels at once? |
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Elad
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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 07:57
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try first to older based labels.
tho im working with giiwa which is pritty new.. but they are ok 
there are too much labels that have 1 realese and 1000 demo trax.. its a dj thingy to get unr.. or at least looks like that.
i can personly recomend :
giiwa (australia - user here)
parvati (denmark/india - user here)
iboga (denmark - user here)
doof (israel - user??)
ketuh (austria - user here)
mistress of evil (u.s.a - user here)
all nice pplz
whatever your style is.. im sure if its proffesional u can sell/realese it
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S.D6 (Yakir .B.)
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 09:58
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send it to all of them, there is a bigger chance that one of them will like it and would like to release it then if you'll send it to one label.
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Lithium
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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 15:41
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yes do not be afraid to loose your first tracks cause that is something that will actually happen but it is a necessary bad thing, cause after people know your work then your way is much easier.
send it to as many labels as u can even if you do not trust them 100%.
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AjmaGard
AjmaGard
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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 17:23
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I would suggest that you send them to more than one at a time.
Also, if you don't trust the label you can make an alternative version to send them. A version which contains small errors such a chopping out a half second of sound every once in a while (don't forget to tell them you did this intentionally), this should keep the not-so-descent label owners from using their label just to get their hands on free unreleased killlaaarrhhhhhh tracks...
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Lithium
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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 18:00
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On 2005-09-15 17:23, AjmaGard wrote:
this should keep the not-so-descent label owners from using their label just to get their hands on free unreleased killlaaarrhhhhhh tracks...
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i agree with you when u say that is better to send to more than one label at a time, but for amateur musicians i wouldn´t make any cuts at all, i believe is better if one assumes that the first tracks are actually to be lost, as i know many label managers that actually try their promo tracks on the danceflor and they do this for many reasons, one of them is that more than their personal taste is good to be aware of the publics general taste and no better place for that than in the dance flor, another reason is to really be aware of the quality one artist or future artist is achieving as there is a big difference form hearing a track at home and hearing the same track in the dancefloor at 20.000w.
i also believe that this is a general attitude from most artists that fear to loose their tracks. big names can worry about that, but artists that are trying to sell theirs first tracks shouldn´t worrie about that, more tracks will come, better tracks, tracks that after 2 months you look at them and say, fucking hell, this sounds like shit ( this happens to me all the time ).
i think if one guy makes good music the sooner his tracks circulate in p2p programs and similar stuff the sooner they´ll get their tracks released, and booked to play at parties.
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soulfood
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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 18:49
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I was studying under this big time songwriter last year (never heard of him mind but he knew loads of famous fuckers and was pretty damn well off) but he says the best way to stop people from stealing your tracks is to as soon as you have finished it mail a copy of it to yourself and don't open it and put it somewhere safe. This way if someone steals it and claims it's theirs or whatever then you have a dated copy. I don't know how this will pay off for a small time budding psy trance artist but i suppose it's worth a shot. right? |
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ND
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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 19:10
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I answered on quite similar question some time ago on other forum, here it is:
"Good quality over good music, some years ago good music had higher status - nowadays its very important to have a good balance between those too, try your best.
Before sending demo, let the label know - send them e-mail, introduce yourself and your music shortly and ask about demos, if they will answer on that - proceed to the next level.
Choose 3-4 labels that suit your direction. If you got negative answers from atleast 2 of them you can procceed to next ones (if they criticized your music - try to find why, maybe you not ready yet for releasing)
If the label not tells you about your cd, send them email approxiamitly after a week from the day they supposed to have it.
If you will choose 3-4 best tracks (regarding the label direction) of yours it will be a higher chance to release on of them then sending the whole 9 track pack, less choise - the label will pay more attention on the 3-4 tracks they got.
Don't worry about answer like "It's very good but not our style": 1. You tried the wrong label 2. You're innovative and can't be accepted in the commercial world
There could be many other answers. The professional labels will be honest and without a doubt will tell you yes or no, and if they would like they will expand why, note them - they may be usefull. Request to change something in your track is up to you, you decide what's the limit and where your track can lost his true owner.
Once you're about to or in the process of signing in, don't make a party out of it, don't run and tell everybody. It's business, no one knows what comes tomorrow. Better sit in your courner and only when the things are sure you can smile, better then to be suddenly dissapointed, angry and broken.
If music is love for you, then don't look for too much money involved in your first releases. Sometimes sacrifices will make your soul more then happy, one day you will be paid for your love.
All the said above is from my point of view and my experience, don't forget that in the end of the day its all about your MUSIC - it speaks for you. Listen well to your first demo, think about it, let other people/true psychedelic freaks/some artists to hear it."
ND
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mubali
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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 19:59
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Well said Prosect... I can totally agree with that.
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 23:39
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cuts in the trax goes directly to the recyclebin, atleast they do here... i mean, wtf do u think we should do with it? Stop beeing paranoid...
I think the best chance to get a release is to send a promo cd directly to the label with a nice presentation of yourself.
And about that unreleased killargh dj thing i guess most of the labels would like to try the track in the dancefloor before they decide if theyre goin to release it or not. And what is better promotion than having your music played at a nice party?
Make yourself a promo and send it around to labels.. That gives you the best chances for getting a release.. What do u have to loose?
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Dennis the menace
DevilsDennis Sparris McHilton
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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 23:44
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whoops most of what i was sayin has allready been said 
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AjmaGard
AjmaGard
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Posted : Sep 16, 2005 00:37
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On 2005-09-15 23:39, Dennis the menace wrote:
cuts in the trax goes directly to the recyclebin, atleast they do here... i mean, wtf do u think we should do with it? Stop beeing paranoid...
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Well actually I guess it isn't funny to find tracks you've send exclusively to labels floating around on mp3's and on peoples' top10 lists (not that this is a bad thing ). This actually happened to a friend of mine. Although this in itself could serve as good promotion, it would still suck since the track obviously would have some commercial value. I mean, if I wanted a track to be shared as mp3, I would most definately do it myself instead of some "I'm-so-cool-with-my-unrelased-quality-tracks"-dj doing it for me! Don't get me wrong, I would never mind any dj's playing my tracks (even unreleased ones) at a party, but I would certainly mind them spreading them around as mp3's. Therefore, I would suggest either sending cut-tracks (with the chance of them going to the recycle bin ) along with a note that the label could contact me if they want a clean version. That way I would know which labels that are interested in my sound.
Personally, I got signed after a rather successful live apperance at a party hosted by the label manager.
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NikC
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Posted : Sep 16, 2005 03:53
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On 2005-09-15 18:49, soulfood wrote:
I was studying under this big time songwriter last year (never heard of him mind but he knew loads of famous fuckers and was pretty damn well off) but he says the best way to stop people from stealing your tracks is to as soon as you have finished it mail a copy of it to yourself and don't open it and put it somewhere safe. This way if someone steals it and claims it's theirs or whatever then you have a dated copy. I don't know how this will pay off for a small time budding psy trance artist but i suppose it's worth a shot. right?
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I have sent tracks to myself in the past as I was also told that it is a form of copyrighting...
However the actual way of doing this is to do it with recorded delivery - not just standard post. Recorded delivery means that you can prove it's from you TO you.
However, after explaining all that I need to tell you that under u.k. copyright law, it Completely unecessary and a waste of Cash:
U.K. Copyright law states that as soon as the work of the artist has been finished it is copyrighted by them...
All you need to do to prove it's yours is show the original song file.
This is the law!
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Dennis the menace
DevilsDennis Sparris McHilton
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Posted : Sep 16, 2005 07:02
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Well actually I guess it isn't funny to find tracks you've send exclusively to labels floating around on mp3's and on peoples' top10 lists (not that this is a bad thing ). This actually happened to a friend of mine. Although this in itself could serve as good promotion, it would still suck since the track obviously would have some commercial value. I mean, if I wanted a track to be shared as mp3, I would most definately do it myself instead of some "I'm-so-cool-with-my-unrelased-quality-tracks"-dj doing it for me! Don't get me wrong, I would never mind any dj's playing my tracks (even unreleased ones) at a party, but I would certainly mind them spreading them around as mp3's. Therefore, I would suggest either sending cut-tracks (with the chance of them going to the recycle bin ) along with a note that the label could contact me if they want a clean version. That way I would know which labels that are interested in my sound.
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i dont think this would happend if ppl where sending cd's to the label instead of mp3 files. And thoose labels who cant hold on a track doesnt deserve any demo/promo from anyone... shitty bastards
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AjmaGard
AjmaGard
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Posted : Sep 16, 2005 08:28
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On 2005-09-16 07:02, Dennis the menace wrote:
i dont think this would happend if ppl where sending cd's to the label instead of mp3 files. And thoose labels who cant hold on a track doesnt deserve any demo/promo from anyone... shitty bastards
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I think you're right on that on that one
*In AjmaGard We Trust*
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