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Satori Vs Upavas Vs Cardinals Cartel New Project
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Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine
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Posted : Dec 30, 2010 02:21
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Nomad moon .. Thanks , Seems theres lots of work to do in but we dont (And never) afraid of (Same with an any track before ready and done) , For the rhythmics and the flow i like when loops are short 4-6 or max 8 (Makes the track be more speedy , Interesting and stream - Especially on massive deep music 140 Bpm and those) Maybe its a bit hard to understand the all picture right now and things sounds deferent but yet .. This is what we looking for to creat and at the time (And i have alot of time ..) will glue and band the all together this weekend and at the coming days will get it up . All will be good and fine and with an supra sound mix in i promise you my friend .. The vision of the involveds in this track build are already exist .. We want it larg , Grand and cinematic ..
Cheers .. !
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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Dec 30, 2010 11:19
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You are a very nice and intelligent
human being, thanx for the advices  |
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Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine
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Posted : Dec 30, 2010 12:11
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Thank you .. This in an great compliment ..
Look .. The most easyer thing for me its to upload this ready track next week , But i dont want that .. I realy need hearing peopels thoughts (And more then that hearing myn after hearing yours and other friends suggestions when we are coming and sit on this one and 'in the end of the day' , im here and i working on - And sure .. I wish somone was siting here with me and help , Not only at the leggo part but even with the order - I mean .. Maybe track can be nice and cool but at the same time im sure each one of us , The producers in this track think deferent and maybe things in , Everything can go into an other directions if somone was in here and work on when i go to sleep or making my coffee , So this kind of Vs its 100% more hard when im the only person who workt on the proper final art work , But thats fine too , I like it , The coin always got two sides) .
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On 2010-12-27 04:10, Upavas wrote:
I think it sounds great so far, and we're improving it constantly. It's nice to work together with other artists and to see what they write and how they perceive the sound and add things, without asking, what should we add .... I quite like the changes, makes it different...
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Upavas
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Posted : Dec 30, 2010 12:18
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sAt0ri
Satori
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Posted : Dec 30, 2010 12:21
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Yeah, wish I could come all the way from Australia to work with you though Yoko!
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Satori
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sAt0ri
Satori
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Posted : Dec 30, 2010 12:23
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Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine
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Posted : Dec 30, 2010 15:28
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On 2010-12-28 19:02, disco hooligans wrote:
kinda thinking why would you do that to a tune ? especially if its for the dancefloor ?
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Ok .. For ones ..
I understand your point of view but you have to understand that at the final work all will be complete and without any free second of empty places in ,
Track will run that way so you will not hear it stop here and there and changes will not "Bother" any one ears and you never feel the same as now , You
will just fall into the total stream ..
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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Dec 30, 2010 15:57
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I was referring to the changes of the bassline pattern. It is the changes in pattern and vibe that I was talking about, not just the little breaks.
Anyhow, I digress, its all a matter of taste.
Peace out.
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elastic_plastic
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Posted : Dec 30, 2010 18:04
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decent sounds but the levels make me feel deaf!! hehe |
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Ocean Production
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Posted : Dec 31, 2010 19:30
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high sound powerful and pro  keep the good project !!! .
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Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine
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Posted : Jan 1, 2011 15:23
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On 2010-12-30 18:04, elastic_plastic wrote:
decent sounds
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Thanx alot m8 .. ! Will be better soon ..
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On 2010-12-31 19:30, Ocean Production wrote:
high sound powerful and pro
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10x you jack ..
So if you will invite me to play again this summer in the Ocean clube ill give you an 'Special dedication' on my set with this ready track  Hehehe ..
Cheers & Happy new year ..  Yoko .
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Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 2, 2011 00:12
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Okej i see your problem as usual Cardinals
You want to go so many ways you dont know where to go.
So my best advice, starting here.
Intro is nice, maybe work on building some tension to the kick and bass, be it some reversed long sound that starts at 0:25
the kick and bass and percs all comes straight away and its nice with that section at 0:51
but at 01:11 it just turns to fast, i think its to early and im not a fan of the electric irritating noise, could be used later on, but not here.
the baseline change at 1:21 is just fumbling for ideas here, too early for a baseline change and you change baseline again at 1:54 to a octave up at some notes, i clearly hear you guys have ideas for lots of basses, thats great but you must sort this out in a better way. Do you want a fullon feeling kind of baseline? or a more mellow, or a little twisted...
As i see it this track really has all kinds of styles and yeah i know you can make them all, but you should all just discuss what you want to do, is it fullon styleish, progish with mellow melodies, or twisted and weird?
Best if you guys just dioscuss this over msn,
My point of view.. at 2:51 it sounds like it could be something groovy... But also you should discuss the use of the sounds, not all at same time, make sections, comon guys communicate and be organized and professional. and if you choose the 2:51 theme, do add more percussion that drives this baby home and get some Disco DSP discovery or nordlead filter madness, knob twisting delux.
0:00 - 0:55 great start, expand and be playfull around this theme, then get the track to move into 2:51 and add more percussion and synth sounds and leads, but organize and make sections...
Good luck dudes 
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Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 2, 2011 00:18
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Okej try this combo,
0:00 - 1:05 - into the break at 1:36
over to 2:49 and just ride the wave 
try this in soundcloud and change marker to my numbers, it can get more coherent this way in my opinion, but i know opinion differs.. just my thoughts here
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Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine
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Posted : Jan 2, 2011 04:33
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I like your post's .. You see everything in very deferent and 'Spatial' way .. Your advices always efficient and practical .
All in process , All can change , All can happen ..
We want a track with many surprise in .. Somthing deferent Ill find the way to bring all be one .
Dont think theres earlyer places in music .. Specialy if my plans is to bring there (After) Somthing harder
We dont realy care of what style it is Its can be PsyRumba , Twist , PsySalsa or what ever .. We didt came into this track with any direction , Intention or definition . What you mean by saying 'Do you want a fullon feeling' ? .. Yes .. I want fullon feeling .. And Dark and Tech and prog and everything .
I think if we will discuss 4 of us in msn it will be a bad thing , By now all work great and we are satisfied and happy .
Thank you very much my friend for everything ill put them all in my mind .. !
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Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 2, 2011 05:09
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Thanks Cardinals - just trying to give some feedback on what i feelt when listening. I understand your artistic thinking and i love that, though sometimes especially if you want it to be a dance track you should take certain things into consideration. But for a audio trip that is not necessary.
I didnt mean that i should discuss with you on msn. But that you, Upavas and Satori should get your story straight, i always love a tracks with a story. Once i worked with a dude called Pete and we had some very trollish stories that where wonderful and visual and it really came out in the music. and that was internet co-lab.
Still you heard it from both me and Disco that we dont like the sudden changes, so i hope you take into consideration and that you make long enough sections to make it possible to cover both, Progressive, fullon, tech and everything.
If you think its possible in a tasteful way. You must surprise me hehe. and i will be honest of what i think.
The track parts all got very good potential!
Sending some creative power for you to have
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