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SARS - SAfi Repetition Syndrom
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Luiz Paulo
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Posted : May 12, 2003 00:03
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Now, is it just me or have you guys noticed that the trio formed by Micha Yossef, Mishel Biton and Tamir Uzana are the fastest-producing fastest-selling guys around? They do it faster than SARS spreads around, hence the acronym...
let's see, they are releasing faster than I can type!
VA - Analyzed [Spectrum, may 2002]
Safi Connection - Prince of Paranoia [Spectrum, july 2002]
Atomic Pulse - The Safi Collection [Spectrum, december 2002]
Safi Connection - Adrenochrome 12" [Spirit Zone, december 2002]
Safi Connection - D-Compilation [SST, april 2003]
Echotek - 2 the Moon 12" [Iboga, april 2003]
Echotek - Application Rate [Flow, may 2003]
VA - Internationalism vol. 2 [Spiral Trax, may 2003]
VA - Analyzed vol. 2 [Spectrum, may 2003]
on a very rough count, it goes to about 67 tracks. not to mention single tracks on various compilations, 'cause there are plenty too.
if the psy trance scene was a drowning man struggling for its life, I'd say these guys are putting the hose in his mouth and pumping the water faster. Yes, I am pointing fingers. Think for yourselves - would you buy any of the above? Let it alone more than one. How creative can artists be? How many good tracks can they pump out? digging deep, maybe there are 5, 6, even 10 amazing tracks amongst the list above. Why not make a higher quality control and release only the best stuff? It seems to me it is way too easy...
Plus, the labels have a great deal of fault too. Come on, it's not like Pena doesn't know Dede, and Anti, and Antaro - these guys should know what each other is doing - if only in order to get a glimpse of what the competitor is gonna release.
sorry if it offends anyone, it is my opinion. You don't like it, counter-argument. If you don't want to, or can't, stay on the sidelines.
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Asi
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Posted : May 12, 2003 00:15
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i heard there is a new Safi Connection Album coming In November.
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Zombi
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Posted : May 12, 2003 00:15
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thats a very good point, told about it to friend not but two days ago. the numbers say its all, no arguments needed.
so many ppl blame other scenes about commerzializm but forget what is going on here.
i was about blaming sebastian kruger for too massive production process since tarsis splited, but micha and tamir plus mishel just took it to another level.
i didnt realy hear their trax, i dont realy gonna do it.
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yossi
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Posted : May 12, 2003 00:16
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damn...
i was thinking about the same thing few days ago.
Luiz... u r working with eli? 
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Zombi
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Posted : May 12, 2003 00:21
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i only want to add that when i heard mishel spin a year ago at party its more sounded like he need very long time to work on the music he want to play, weak i was say.
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Luiz Paulo
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Posted : May 12, 2003 00:26
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as to what is coming up:
Spectrum album - Tamir and Dede.
S.O.S. album - Tamir and Dimitri (of GBU fame).
Safi Connection album - Misha & Mishel, on Flow rec.
plus I'm pretty sure there's more...
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Zombi
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Posted : May 12, 2003 00:31
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well, i gonna buy them all, as promoters says - million ppl cant be wrong !!
tamir also have trak on new avalanche comp.
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Hg
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Posted : May 12, 2003 00:58
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I think the problem is that the number of albums sold per year in the trance scene is almost a constant. Every year some people start buying and about the same # of people stop buying them.
Some artists have realized that the real "fan" (like people in this forum) normally buy most albums that are released. When I say most I mean the ones that are more expected.
Therefore, artists do not fear to release their stuff, because they know that a "constant" number of people will buy no matter what.
This is a singularity in the trance scence! imo
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Luiz Paulo
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Posted : May 12, 2003 01:03
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I think that the problem in your analysis is that it doesn't make any sense.
Ask just about anyone in the business and they will tell you that sales have been dropping steadily.
Therefore, your argument fails from the first sentence.
next please?
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : May 12, 2003 01:13
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just lack of quality control. they are not the only ones in the scene that are lacking it (huge lack actually).
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Kaz
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Posted : May 12, 2003 01:31
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More albums, less people buy each albums, the more every artist wants to release, since sales are based on numbers. What about GMS? Those guys also release massive amounts. I'm sure there are many other hyperactive releasers, even though I'm not that updated when it comes to how many tracks each artist and artist releases a year. Quality control on releases has been debated here from many sides - through the amount of releases, to the (more than in the past) commerical nature of certain releases. Add to that the mp3 thing (which has also been discussed plentifully), and the fact that labels release loads of dancefloor oriented compilations which are harming album sales of artists (also been mentioned in a thread, forget which), and the fact that a rough 90% of the releases are made by DJs (as a producer or as a compiler) and not by people searching for an artistic expression beyond the short goals of record sales or dancefloor popularity (many artists sin at this), and the continuing recession in albums that can be called pure gems (in percentage, not in number), and this is the end result.
Surprising? Well, that's what happens when commercial reality meets non-commercial music. Our scene will either split up into 2 scenes - the hardcore underground and the more 'friendly' form, or will just grow a lot smaller back to a size where it can maintain itself. More bankrupt labels are expected, in either case (this has also been discussed quite a bit).
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Hg
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Posted : May 12, 2003 04:10
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Bad hypothesis... Perhaps I dont know much about the international sales on popular level because most people I know fit in the profile of my hypothesis. Too bad... It's sad to know that the sales have been dropping as you posted, i really didnt know that! Well, i know that it started dropping a few years ago because of trading, but i thought that they had reached a certain constant today!
My bad... Then, i have no idea and i better shut up  ! Only thing, is that i agree with the quality stuff said above. People are producing to release fast and forgetting about quality and, especially, creativity!
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andrejcid
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Posted : May 12, 2003 14:14
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well, these guys gained a lot of fame with the "prince of paranoia" album and since that release they constantly keep releasing stuff...as u already said!
well, u see many people start disliking that fact and its my opinion that this will change.
i think its a matter of instant popularity which i'm quite sure won't last very long. even these guys as many others will come down on earth, this is just their 5min of fame.it is as kaz said, i.e. the interferance of comercial reality with underground music, but i really don't think can coexist together.
let them enjoy theyr 5min because they won't last long...
don't get me wrong, i deffinitely do not say that these guys and some other similar will colapse, they'll just realize some things which they haven't realised yet. each year there is an artist/band who do the same......they have wings... 
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Hodi
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Posted : May 12, 2003 18:34
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talking about many tracks..........
the kings of mass production is absolutly..
---------------------GMS--------------------------
every day i hear a new about a new track or remix by gms
i think they release about 200 tracks (including remixes)
per year.
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