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Sampling the bass,why is that?
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jekvan
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 01:46:13
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So I've read here that many folks recommend sampling the bass to get the best sounding one.Is there any technical reason behind this (avoiding clicks perhaps or something of this sort,or not?)?
What does it matter if the bass will sound a bit different from time to time ? For sure the tiny difference in phase isn't that noticable at all,and really it is much more pleasant and less ear fatiguing having life in the bass then the same mindless sample?
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faxinadu
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 03:27
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loki
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 04:23
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It's for osc retriggering and general stability, for the most part.
I started sampling ESM (no osc retrigger) for psybass, but I don't even know if I would anymore. I kind of enjoy free-running analog VCO... it does indeed provide life.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 04:33
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D7uan
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 07:51
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yeah...try it...and you will definetly hear the difference every note will sound the same when sampled and it will indeed be more consistent as opposed to the osciliator just running free starting wherever the fuck it wants...it just doesnt have that attack anymore if it starts somewhere in the middle of the wave as opposed to it starting at the beggining each note....imho i dont like it but hey if it sound good to you....use it |
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faxinadu
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 07:56
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Upavas
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 09:14
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minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 14:49
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If you working with analogue gear(and some but rarely soft synths too) you will most likely be forced to use it when doing 16th notes kbbb style at high tempo but if you are using a solid digital OSC you shouldn't have to worry about it!
In my opinion, its one of those things that you should only use if you have too or if you get better results. 
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daark
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 15:05
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mudpeople
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 15:48
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I was using a 303 sample for basses for a while, because, I had a real 303 sample  But 303s or emus mostly dont have sustain or release, so the notes do bleed a bit, sampling and fading out takes care of that.
I use Renoise for most of my work which is GREAT for audio manip and got in the habit of using samps, which actually turned out to be something of a bad habit. Ive since tried out all sorts of vsts for basses, which opened up a whole world I overlooked by using 303 style 1 wave monosynths.
But, if I wanted to use more than 1 plug, or note, or octave or etc, it would be more, and more delicate, work than sampling. It sometimes takes a steady hand on the decay to get the note length right.
I see no benefit either way really, but I do try to use as little prerecorded audio as possible almost superstitiously.
And I never compress any bass, except sidechaining when i want to use a longer kick, and for TAL Elek7ro II in my Ableton live set
Which btw, is a great bass. But so is Prophanity, and Micromoon and Cronox and V-Station and Charlatan and Triangle 1 and Operator etc etc (which if i wanted to use Operator in Renoise would have to be sampled)
But if I use sampled bass I usually make one each time. Cuz, Renoise!
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