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Samples from Movies ---- Part II
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zooter
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Posted : Jul 12, 2005 15:42
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even though this question was inspired from "Samples from Movies" thread @ http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/66682/forum/2 i thought this belongs as a separate thread...
isn't trance the only form of music (esp. psytrance) where movie samples are used!
Very rarely have i heard movie samples on other types of music...this is brilliant and superb looking at it from one side, but from the other side it's pretty lame...
The artists who make music are as creative as artists of other forms of music, or scriptwriters in movies, but why can't they create their own memorable lines?
eg: Eskimo - Party Pooper (dunno if it's from a movie)
comments plz...
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snowflake
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Posted : Jul 12, 2005 17:16
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Movie sampling isn't exclusive to the psytrance scene only. You can find samples from movies in almost every genre of electronic music, and also sometimes in other musical genres (Dream theater used a sample from "Cinema Paradiso" for example).
But, I strongly believe that in the psytrance scene it's being used excessivly.
About the lameness or originality of movie samples, I guess as always it's a matter of context...
b.t.w.
AFAIK the eskimo sample is a real recording from a party (correct me if I'm wrong)
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mubali
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Posted : Jul 12, 2005 20:56
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In other genres there are remixes of pop songs and samples used so many times they have become nostalgic to use... There was a whole subgenre of jungle that catered to remixing rap tunes. To be honest sampling has been used in a lot of music since the 70's.
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Jul 16, 2005 14:24
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imo samples from movies can not be replaced by samples recorded @ studio. Simply due to the fact that ppl in most cases recognize the vocal line from movie and in the middle of the track they get an "injection" of impressions picked up from a movie. This effect is in fact a small relevation and listener feels like he has heard the tune before, often feeling of a track exactly the same way he felt about the movie.
is it creative? of course not. but it's one of the oldes marketing strategies used in every aspect of our living. Naturaly, music is not an excuse.
of course, this is just mho 
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talolard
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Posted : Jul 16, 2005 16:24
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sir-mix-alot used a sample from Fll Metal Jacket in his song "Baby got back"
it was the vietnamese prostitue saying "me so horny"
Work like you don't need the money.
Love like you've never been hurt.
Dance like nobody's watching.
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AlphaQuadrant
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Posted : Jul 16, 2005 18:07
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WUT ?
you havenīt heard much music samples ?
joke , or ?
try velvet acid christ, frontline assembly, wumpscut, 242 and other bands in this direction. they use masses of them also from tv or games....
haha, how funny.
or try sum of my traxx ( plug hehe )
btw: in my remix from CCīs "this is my rifle" i sampled the whole "tet offensive speach" from the captain in "full metal jacket" LOL |
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zooter
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Posted : Jul 19, 2005 13:27
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try velvet acid christ, frontline assembly, wumpscut, 242 and other bands in this direction. they use masses of them also from tv or games....
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forgive me for being so ignorant; but who the hell are these guys? I was thinking more in terms of small time bands/artists like Pink Floyd, Led Zep, Beatles, AC/DC
glad i could make you laugh.
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AlphaQuadrant
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Posted : Jul 19, 2005 21:32
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@ zooter: okay, sorry i hope ur not angry at me now. itīs just in much music i hear (make) are much samples from tv, films etc. but i forgot that other ppl. could have total different taste in music....
but i also like pink floyd led zep and the beatles.a dn other rock,pop or even metal stuff. while i donīt know what u mean with "small time artists" ??
i could search for you the internet pages from the bands i mentioned, but if ur more into guitar sound you wonīt like it , since itīs more ebm, electro, indus with some techno and trance influences. |
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zooter
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Posted : Jul 20, 2005 11:51
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On 2005-07-19 21:32, AlphaQuadrant wrote:
@ zooter: okay, sorry i hope ur not angry at me now.
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apologies accepted...nothing wrong with a little fight to lighten up the forum, eh? 
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while i donīt know what u mean with "small time artists" ??
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was meant to be sarcastic... 
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i could search for you the internet pages from the bands i mentioned, but if ur more into guitar sound you wonīt like it , since itīs more ebm, electro, indus with some techno and trance influences.
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exactly what i wanted to bring out; mostly Electronic influenced bands use samples from movies, tv, games etc
Finally, i 2 owe you an apology..sorry for my outburst 
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AlphaQuadrant
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Posted : Jul 22, 2005 02:04
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okay, my friend:
i compiled some shit for you ( and all the others taht are interested in dark, industrial, electro or terror ebm music ), i selected for use of movie, tv + game samples:
http://www.myspace.com/godmodule
terrific powerful, dark dance sound from yasin + co.
http://www.myspace.com/blc
rising electro label from USA, known for their outstanding "interbreeding" comps.
http://www.myspace.com/velvetacidchrist
bryan erickson defined new levels of the industrial + ebm genre. terrific music..
http://www.myspace.com/mentalloandthefixer
some of the founders of more complex electro. a must !
http://www.myspace.com/nivekogre
the godfathers: skinny puppy ! no words needed for them.
http://www.myspace.com/objectger
rising german darkelectro music from my friend andreas.
FLA , :W:, 242 and other cool bands have not much in the net, you could search in your fav record store or on filesharing for them.
http://www.myspace.com/alphaquadrant
finally my humble attempts on musicmaking, not comparable in quality to above bands, but my aim is not to compete with them instead mix styles as: ambient, electro, darkwave, ebm, industrial, psytrance, techno, gothic....
http://www.myspace.com/ximx
those uīll know probably already
pls. have patience with myspace the site is lame as hell + unstable, cause of too mcuh traffic for the servers i guess.
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AlphaQuadrant
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Posted : Jul 26, 2005 01:49
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so ur opinion ? |
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NikC
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Posted : Jul 26, 2005 02:21
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full_on
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Posted : Jul 27, 2005 00:46
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Dream Theater used samples from movies and documentaries in their album Awake. Very good samples, some examples:
"...But he's the sort who can't know anyone intimately, least of all a woman. He doesn't know what a woman is. He wants you for a possession, something to look at like a painting or an ivory box.
Something to own and to display.
He doesn't want you to be real, or to think or to live. he doesn't love you, but I love you, and I want you to have your own thoughts and ideas and feelings, even when I hold you in my arms.
It's our last chance... it's our last chance..."
"You've got to know who you're dealin' with because, like a stranger, A-heh, just might come in through here with a gun... and then, what
Would you do?"
"Everything is immaterial..."
"n' you know that reality is immaterial."
"this is not reality..."
Respect!
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...Dance like nobody's watching...
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Inner Demon
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Posted : Jul 27, 2005 10:12
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Well there are different takes on it.
I read that Winter Demon for instance records all his vocal samples himself in order to get the exact lines/words and intonations etc that he wants.
Kinda overkill if u ask me though, there are so many brilliant movie quotes already out there, and I tend to agree with shamantrixx about the recognition effect. If u wanna set a theme for a tune, using samples that people may recognize is much more stimulating for the mind. |
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zooter
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Posted : Jul 27, 2005 10:20
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ok, i have another thought...i guess that since psytrance is pretty underground, the usage of samples etc. does not really have much cost & it's simpler to pick lines from a movie than to try and come up with one...
or maybe it would look amateruish if some big band (like Metallica) uses lines from movies in their tracks -- off course as full_on pointed out, there are exceptions; but "Dream Theater" has always been a rather unique band! They don't mind imitating metallica (correct me if i'm wrong here!) since they're big fans of metallica |
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