Sampler bass

On 2008-07-01 22:24, avduka wrote:
can someone please explain how you would go about sampling bass. I use Ableton Live and would like to sample bass notes from tau pro, or any other synth and use it for bass. If someone is kind to share their secrets of how they go about this it would be very appreciated. I have never done this but would love to know how to do it.

On 2008-08-22 13:38, PoM wrote:
you re looking for rapture, not a sampler but a wavetable synth , just cut a cycle of a saw and then use that.

On 2008-08-22 16:42, -aeon- wrote:
to sample tau (or any synth) in ableton:

- open new project, select session view. make channel 1 midi and channel 2 audio.

- put Tau on the midi channel. make a new midi clip with a few bass notes (leave them quite long for now). try to get as simple and neutral a bass sound as possible.

- make a new audio channel. in the top drop-down box above the fader select '1-MIDI' as the input. arm the channel.

- the clip boxes in the audio channel should now be small record buttons. click on one and ableton will record the tau output to the new audio clip.

On 2008-08-22 16:42, -aeon- wrote:
to sample tau (or any synth) in ableton:

- open new project, select session view. make channel 1 midi and channel 2 audio.

- put Tau on the midi channel. make a new midi clip with a few bass notes (leave them quite long for now). try to get as simple and neutral a bass sound as possible.

- make a new audio channel. in the top drop-down box above the fader select '1-MIDI' as the input. arm the channel.

- the clip boxes in the audio channel should now be small record buttons. click on one and ableton will record the tau output to the new audio clip.

- make a new midi channel for Simpler. drag the audio clip into Simpler's waveform box (the big empty space). you should now be able to zoom in on the start and end of the notes, and use midi patterns etc.

of course you can use any VSTi or sampler that you like - this is just one way of single sampling with Ableton. often i tend to work in the arrangement view, using the loop brace; you can also resample, or render, etc. etc.

for me i find Simpler is ok for bass. i have used more complicated samplers but IMO you don't really need that much functionality for sampling bass. most of the time you're using notes of a similar length and pitch; and most of the processing is better handled by dedicated plugins. Simpler's filter isn't very nice so i would always filter my bass sampler with another plugin, etc. etc...



as for tips when sampling bass...

* experiment with ADSR and learn how longer samples compare with shorter ones.

* velocity and note placement are very important for injecting 'feel' and groove into a bassline, particularly a single-sample one which can get monotonous.

* experiment with track delay to help alter the feel of a bass.

* a little bit of sidechaining can go a long way.

* try layering your bass - e.g. split into two or three bands with EQ, then process them separately (e.g. stereo width in the middle bass, or distortion at the top) then bring them together for compression in a bus channel.

* if you have a solid synth with osc retrigger / reset then don't be afraid to sample an entire bar and work with the audio - can be fun!

On 2008-08-22 10:34, Tribute wrote:
Hey guys,

I never sampled bass notes but i want to try it out. But i dont know wich sampler is good for it, and this thread also not help me very much..
What do you prefer? Kontakt? Battery or maybe another one?
Whats about this highlife thing, has it good filters and such?
Wich sampler has good filters? i think its really important for the choice.

Greetz