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Sample synth line, wich key ?

OpTiKoOl
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Posted : Apr 26, 2005 04:35
hey guys and girls...

i'm needing some help here..
i'm not a musician...and neither have a musical knowledge to 'find' by ear in which key a sample line is in...so what i'm looking here is some sort of a plugin/app that could load a sample..and could tell with accuracy enough in which key the sample is it ?

thanks in advance..
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s0ft
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Posted : Apr 26, 2005 04:48
no plugin that i know of. seems impossible to me.

you could determine the "core" frequency of each note then identify that freq on a chart with the note it is associated with. i cant find the chart at the moment. its a few extra steps, but it'll work.

im sure someone will come along with the link to the chart.


...was i clear?


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OpTiKoOl
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Posted : Apr 26, 2005 04:58
hey thanks soft ..for your reply...

i think you was clear ..but not enough i suppose.. lol :S

can you show me some light with some fast steps how to do it...i'll try to find that chart myself then..

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Surrender
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Posted : Apr 26, 2005 07:46
open a freakuency analyzer on it and see where it the "core" is like s0ft said:
A = 55hz
A# = 58hz
B = 62hz
C = 65hz
C# = 69hz
D = 74hz
D# = 78hz
E = 82hz
F = 87hz
F# = 93hz
G = 98hz
G# = 104hz

first octave.
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OpTiKoOl
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Posted : Apr 26, 2005 07:51
okei first octave it's C0, in a key editor of cubase, right ?

and now the core frequency...i don't know what you mean...is where the peak of the sound is at ?

thanks for the help...now i've all the freqs for each octaves..if first octave is c0 as i think it is...

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s0ft
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Posted : Apr 26, 2005 07:53
if the sample has more than one note (for example, a melody) you should do this process for each note. then check http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/piano/ to determain the key. it'll be hard, no doubt, but i dont see a simpler way.           The IsraTrance MySpace Group:
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s0ft
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Posted : Apr 26, 2005 07:56
Quote:

On 2005-04-26 07:51, OpTiKoOl wrote:
okei first octave it's C0, in a key editor of cubase, right ?

and now the core frequency...i don't know what you mean...is where the peak of the sound is at ?

thanks for the help...now i've all the freqs for each octaves..if first octave is c0 as i think it is...


the core is usually the loudest part of the sound, i'd imagine it would be in the middle of the sound on a spectrum.           The IsraTrance MySpace Group:
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orik
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Posted : Apr 26, 2005 13:36
dosnt the antares autotuner show you exactly
on wich key the samples playing?...
sy000321
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Posted : Apr 26, 2005 16:30

hey... funboy... i've seen some freeware that does that...

it got covered in an computer music mag i've got... remember me to look it up at home and reply

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s0ft
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Posted : Apr 26, 2005 16:57
something like that exists? odd, i dont see how it could work. please give me more info on this freeware one, sy000321.

orik. thanks for the tip. ill check it out. im interested to see if its acurate.           The IsraTrance MySpace Group:
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Freeflow
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 01:25
C-Tuner is a nice plug that would do what you want,
it tells both note name and frequency.

Core also called Fundamental.

this plug C-tuner is freeware but unfortunatly i cant find it, it seems that the author has shut down his site..


But i did a little research and found it here, but you have to do some work your self, in the search column write C_Tuner.dll

http://www.webzila.com/?wz=dll

good luck
Freeflow
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 01:30
Some Info about C_Tuner

C_TUNER

This is a simple but very accurate instrument tuner.
At 44.1Khz:

Range: C-2 to D7 / 8Hz to about 5000Hz / Midi note 0 to 110

Accuracy: It can detect to an accuracy of +/-1 cent on the normal setting and of +/-0.1cent on the super accurate setting.

Timing: About half a second to show a steady reading.

Sensitivity: It will detect a -60db fundamental up to 2000Hz (~C6). The sensitivity reduces from that point until almost zero at 5000Hz.

And s0ft, Thanks for that handy link! very nice indeed
s0ft
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 01:41
anytime New Era Scientist.

i gotta try those plugins. i cant see how it would work with wider sounds that cover a number of freqs. ill give it a try.           The IsraTrance MySpace Group:
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Freeflow
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 03:34
s0ft - it jumps like crazy if there are lots of notes involved, but you can get the general notes and frequencies at least.

its not meant for chords, you can press a chord and C_Tuner will go trough all the notes in that chord, with more or less luck.

it seems reliable and works for simple tasks

i like it...
s0ft
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 04:02
awsome. thanks for the info. ill try it out.           The IsraTrance MySpace Group:
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